Spring Fling III

[bmwqc]

Heads up guys & gals!

The announcement for Spring Fling III at Sanair will be posted in the coming weeks. I plan to commence registration around February 15th.

In the meantime, I need to line up some volunteers to help out with the running of this 2-day event. All those who are interested, we NEED volunteer personnel for the following tasks:



Food & beverage procurement
Registration
Gate control
Staging
Technical Inspection
Cones placement
Chef plus cooking assistant
Utility crew (setting up & clean-up)
Organizer(s) for Show & Shine

The more volunteers we have, the better the event. Please get back to me on this.

Tks
Henry

[Lee]

I Henry. I would be glad to do the cooking for the two lunches and the dinner. I will need an assistant though.

The cones are usually installed by the chief-instructor and his assistant. They need to be placed at specific places. I can take buy most of the food, but somebody else should take care of beverages.

[Karin]

Hi Henry,
I can take care of registration since I've done that before. I'd vounteer to take care of the beverages, but I have no access to a Costco card :( since us single people tend not to need packages of 102 rolls of toilet paper and 36 pork chops :)

Lee, if I help you cook - will I still be able to do all my sessions?

[blacksheep]

I can drop by costco and buy stuff

[Lee]

Hi Henry,
I can take care of registration since I've done that before. I'd vounteer to take care of the beverages, but I have no access to a Costco card :( since us single people tend not to need packages of 102 rolls of toilet paper and 36 pork chops :)

Lee, if I help you cook - will I still be able to do all my sessions?

Hi Karin, I would be very happy to do the cooking with you. It will require 30 minutes before lunches. Then for the BBQ, we can start things at 5PM to be ready for 6:30ish. I have asked Henry that we get two grills so that it can speed things up.

[Emre]

Perhaps we can ask Simon (a.k.a., Yield) and Antoine (a.k.a., flukester) if they'd be willing to help with the show-n-shine? They did an excellent job last year, even though it was the very first time for them. I'm sure they could do something really special this year without much difficulty.

As for me, I'll help with whatever's needed. That might include tech inspection, placing cones, etc. I can also help with set-up and tear-down. I would prefer to be free over the lunch hour on Saturday so I can help set-up the show-n-shiners on the in-field.

Anyway, you can count on me to help out in any way you need. That goes for SummerDrift as well.

Emre

[Lee]

I can probably help with the tech inspection too. So, Henry, please count me in as a techy.

[blacksheep]

I can help out if needed, but getting to Sanair early is a problem because it's very far from here

[Lee]

Dis-donc Éric, vas-tu commencer le training comme Padawan instructeur à Sanair? Mets-toi en contact avec Yoda Chérif afin de savoir comment procéder. Les instructeurs peuvent avoir un/une passagère...

[bmwqc]

I can probably help with the tech inspection too. So, Henry, please count me in as a techy.

Lee,

It would be a pleasure watching our resident master chef de cuisine waving a torque wrench :D

[blacksheep]

Les instructeurs peuvent avoir un/une passagère...Hahahahah :D tu crois que ça va m'épargner des ennuis?

[Lee]

Lee,

It would be a pleasure watching our resident master chef de cuisine waving a torque wrench :D

Yeah. And I will cook with Mobil One 15W50.

[Nano]

I have no preferences,

If you need help with anything, I'll gladly contribute

[Emre]

If you need help with anything, I'll gladly contributeMaybe you can be the resident "pulling stones out of expensive alloy wheels" guy ;)

I'll help dig people out of the sand.

Emre

[Lee]

Maybe you can be the resident "pulling stones out of expensive alloy wheels" guy ;)

I'll help dig people out of the sand.

Emre

To each his expertise... :D And as usual, I will be "cooking". ;)

[Nano]

Maybe you can be the resident "pulling stones out of expensive alloy wheels" guy :-)

Emre
Nah, that's noob stuff anyone can learn on it's own. I have developped a far more advanced skill! Pulling stone STUCK between expensive wheels AND expensive brakes.

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No worries, everything is as good as new (+o-). And I still had the greatest of times on the track. :-)

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I'll help dig people out of the sand.
First you need to teach "spinning 101" (I could teach that as well)

and then Lee can teach "excuses to spinning 101" :D:P:P

[Lee]

I meant to do this. :P

[Andre]

I don't know if you need me for anything else Henry but I could do registration if you like. If not, point me in the direction you'd like me to go and I'll be happy to help out.

Lee, I'm surprised you're using Mobil one, I thought Turco would be the oil of choice. Slighty nutty, bearing-like flavour...mmmmmmmm

~andre~

[bmwqc]

I Henry. I would be glad to do the cooking for the two lunches and the dinner. I will need an assistant though.

The cones are usually installed by the chief-instructor and his assistant. They need to be placed at specific places. I can take buy most of the food, but somebody else should take care of beverages.

I am aware this is the chief instructor's job. Still, I am hoping to
recruit a volunteer for the assistant's position. Laying cones (especially at the tri-oval side ) is no easy job. The track layout requires many, many cones, and those damned suckers are heavy.

[bmwqc]

Hi Henry,
I can take care of registration since I've done that before. I'd vounteer to take care of the beverages, but I have no access to a Costco card :( since us single people tend not to need packages of 102 rolls of toilet paper and 36 pork chops :)

Lee, if I help you cook - will I still be able to do all my sessions?

Great!
Eric and I will take care of the Costco purchases. Our cars are somewhat limited in space, so both of us will have to go.

[bmwqc]

I can drop by costco and buy stuff

Eric,

OK, so you and I can will stock up on the beverages at Costco. We will probably need upwards of 20 cases of drink, we'll fill up the available space in our respective cars.

[bmwqc]

Perhaps we can ask Simon (a.k.a., Yield) and Antoine (a.k.a., flukester) if they'd be willing to help with the show-n-shine? They did an excellent job last year, even though it was the very first time for them. I'm sure they could do something really special this year without much difficulty.

As for me, I'll help with whatever's needed. That might include tech inspection, placing cones, etc. I can also help with set-up and tear-down. I would prefer to be free over the lunch hour on Saturday so I can help set-up the show-n-shiners on the in-field.

Anyway, you can count on me to help out in any way you need. That goes for SummerDrift as well.

Emre

Good idea. I will get in touch with Antoine and Simon. My only concern is if they are both going to be doing the DE, it would be difficult for either of them to supervise the Show & Shine. We might want to consider recruiting (in addition), someone who is into this kind of thing but will not do the DE.

[bmwqc]

I have no preferences,

If you need help with anything, I'll gladly contribute

Hi Nano,

OK, I will place you together with Chef Lee (not for cooking), but to help out in tech inspection.

[bmwqc]

I don't know if you need me for anything else Henry but I could do registration if you like. If not, point me in the direction you'd like me to go and I'll be happy to help out.


Hi Andre,

Good idea. You can team up with Karin for the registration.


Tks

[bmwqc]

I must say that I am impressed with the level of response from our members eagerly offering their services to help out with the upcoming driving event.

So here are the tentative volunteer assignments:

Confirmed
Beverage procurement: Henry & Eric
Food procurement: Lee
Registration: Karin & Andre
Technical Inspection: Lee & Nano
Chef plus cooking assistant: Lee & Karin
Utility crew (setting up & clean-up): Emre & Henry


To be confirmed
Organizer(s) for Show & Shine: Antoine & Simon




Yet to be confirmed
Gate control
Staging
Cones placement


Have I missed out on any other assignment(s)?



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[blacksheep]

if you want to do some judging for the show and shine I have some experience with that mess. I still have some scoring sheets from the "shows" I used to organize to give you an idea

[Emre]

if you want to do some judging for the show and shine I have some experience with that mess. I still have some scoring sheets from the "shows" I used to organize to give you an ideaThat would be terrific. Last year the show was rather informal and I think some of the participants were unhappy about that. If we had a couple of classes and allowed people to vote for their favorites in each category, that would go a long way towards making the shiners feel more at home.

Emre

[Nano]

That would be terrific. Last year the show was rather informal and I think some of the participants were unhappy about that. If we had a couple of classes and allowed people to vote for their favorites in each category, that would go a long way towards making the shiners feel more at home.

Emre

Maybe having a parking areas dedicated to the show and shine would help?

[blacksheep]

I'll share the scoring sheets and my experience but if you want my advice, it's best to stay away from judging cars and turning it into the "custom car show" can of worms.

From my experience, the "custom car show" crowd are a bunch of whiners who will bitch and sulk and complain if they don't win a trophy even if their car is a shitbox.

If you keep it informal and just a fun get-together, you'll avoid a lot of useless aggravation.

[Emre]

Maybe having a parking areas dedicated to the show and shine would help?That's exactly what we have planned. Drivers and instructors in the rear paddock (behind the small oval); show-n-shiners in the main lot at the entrance...then moved into the service road under the spectator stands during the lunch hour. It sounds complicated, but it's not.

Emre

[Lee]

Hi Emre. Do not forget that we may need part of the front parking for wet skidpad exercises. The other area for a wet skidpad could be near the back entrance. We can also welcome the show'n'shiners thru the back entrance.

[Emre]

We can also welcome the show'n'shiners thru the back entrance.Keep in mind that the shiners can NOT be expected to show up at 7am! They will probably start rolling in between 10-11am. We need a place that's HIGHLY visible from the road so they can all gather before we open the gates at noon.

If the meeting spot is hard to find, we will lose many of them. This is what happened last summer. The ones who missed the cruise from the Tim Hortons to the tri-oval couldn't figure out where we were and how to get in. Remember, these are not track junkies (yet!). Most of them will not know their way around the facility. But all of them will know how to access the parking lot to the dragstrip.

Emre

[Lee]

Can we host the show'n'shine on Sunday on the tri-oval?

[bmwqc]

Can we host the show'n'shine on Sunday on the tri-oval?

We had discussed this before. The drag strip side offers a more secluded spot for the S & S. At the tri-oval during Spring Fling II, there were some problems with traffic (cars exiting the track and onto the paddocks).

[Emre]

Exactly. There's no safe room to host a large number of parked cars on the tri-oval. The shiners will be underfoot. Access will be limited.

The road circuit has a nice, protected set of service roads that run parallel to the main strip (between the strip and the bleechers). The shiners can park along the service road...protected from the strip by a concrete barrier. They'll have full access to the bleechers. That means they have a birds-eye view of all the on-track action (on both sides). Plus, they can walk freely from the bleechers to the concession stand and upper parking lot via the covered bridge.

Overall, it's safer and nicer to run the show-n-shine on the road circuit compared to the tri-oval. The shiners roll in at their leisure and collect in the upper parking lot behind the tower. We can register them there. At noon, the on-track action is stopped for one hour. During that time, the shiners file onto the service road and take their positions. At 12:45 pm, the gate is locked. No shiners can drive into or out of the show-n-shine area until the event is over at 4 pm. At that point, we can have the drivers vote in the car show. Then we can all have some BBQ together.

That's the plan, anyway!

Emre

[bmwqc]

Hi everyone,

I just want to provide an update for Spring III at Sanair.

Pierre Longuez, Antoine & Simon have all agreed to organize the Show & Shine at Sanair. We will get together at next month's meeting to iron out the details.


I am still missing one person to man the front gate for the 2 days at Sanair. This person is stationed at the entry gate and gets everyone coming in to sign the waiver form. Because it requires the person to be there for the whole duration of the event, it is not a true voluntary assignment, so the club would consider offering some financial compensation to the interested party. The gatekeeper will be entitled to lunch, refreshments, and the BBQ dinner and maybe even a ride with one of the instructors at the end of the session. If any of you guys (and gals, of course) might know someone (a relative or friend, etc), someone who is reliable (must be 18 or over), please let me know.

[blacksheep]

Henry do you think the person at the gate would need to be bilingual?

I have some friends who could do it but aren't bilingual (French-only)

[bmwqc]

Henry do you think the person at the gate would need to be bilingual?

I have some friends who could do it but aren't bilingual (French-only)

The person at the gate does not need to be bilingual, but a bit of passable English would help because some of the participants at the event will be from outside the province.

[alex]

sorry I join the thread so late. I am willing to help out with anything as well. I will come to the event even if i am not a participant (not sure yet). is the putting cones on the track assistant position taken already?
A.

[bmwqc]

sorry I join the thread so late. I am willing to help out with anything as well. I will come to the event even if i am not a participant (not sure yet). is the putting cones on the track assistant position taken already?
A.

Alex,

OK, you're on. Your new title will be conemaster :D

[Andre]

Henry,

Your sympatico mail box is full. My message bounced back.
The translated and updated texts are ready.

-andre-

[bmwqc]

Henry,

Your sympatico mail box is full. My message bounced back.
The translated and updated texts are ready.

-andre-

Andre,

Please send the files to: bmwqc@yahoo.com

Tks
HW

[bmwqc]

I am trying to check out the announcements and registration forms for Spring Fling III at Sanair, and I get the following message (but I am already logged in). What gives???



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[Emre]

Hi, Henry.

When I tried it at home, it worked. But now that I've tried at work, I get the same error message.


We need Andrei's help. I really don't know how to do this stuff properly!

Emre

[Lee]

Doesn't work for me either. Directors should not have to rely on themselve to post articles and forms on the website. It should be a webmaster job. To each its speciality.

[Andre]

Got the same error as well.
Seeing as we were logged in, I'm guessing that it may be a glitch in the forum software that may create an error in the URL of the links when they are posted.

~a~

[Andrei]

Please forward me the exact description of the errors you are getting. I can't guess what exactly you are trying to do from the information posted. And please do it via non-public channels.

[blaze_125]

Where can I get a hold of the Tech Inspection sheet prior to registration? Who can perform the Inspection? I'm in Ottawa. I don't want to shell out 300$ and then find out I won't be able to meet the Inspection requirements.

[Emre]

Where can I get a hold of the Tech Inspection sheet prior to registration?We should have the new website up shortly. It will be available for download. If you want, I can e-mail it to you.


Who can perform the Inspection? I'm in Ottawa.You can have it done at any local garage. Take the car to whoever you normally use for mechanical work. The inspection should take 30 minutes tops. Most shops will charge $15-20 for labor.


I don't want to shell out 300$ and then find out I won't be able to meet the Inspection requirements.There are no special requirements. Any street car with stock equipment will pass tech. Remember, this is safety tech...it's not too different from annual inspection in places that require it.

Emre

[Wello]

I also get the same error message...
Registrations will open soon, and I don't want to miss out on this.
Emre (ou tout autre bon samaritain).... could you please e-mail the 3 documents that are posted on the web page for the spring fling (tech inspection, event announcement & Registration). (p_ouellet@yahoo.com)

Thanks,

[kompressorz]

Well no luck this time... I can't make it this year...... I will be driving the Dragon that week....( http://tailofthedragon.com/ ) :(

[bmwqc]

Club BMW de Québec





Spring Fling III à Sanair




Le club BMW de Québec vous invite à participer à son cours de conduite de niveau avancé. Le cours se déroulera pendant deux jours sur la piste de Sanair le 13 et le 14 mai 2006. Nous accepterons les inscriptions pour cet évènement du 15 février 2006 au 2 mai 2006. Il est possible de télécharger les formulaires d'inscription et d'inspection technique sur notre site (http://bmwquebec.ca/). Il suffitt de remplir le formulaire d'inscription et de nous l'envoyer avec le paiement. Ensuite, dans un délai maximum de 3 semaines avant l'événement, faites remplir le formulaire d'inspection technique par votre mécanicien habituel, et apportez le formulaire avec vous lors de l'événement. Vous en aurez besoin pour compléter votre inscription au circuit.




Le site de Sanair
Le cours se déroulera sur deux pistes du site de Sanair. La première journée, le samedi le 13 mai, se passera sur la piste du circuit routier. Cette piste incorpore la piste de quart de mille ainsi qu'une section du circuit ovale. La piste a une longueur d'à peu près 2000m et n'est pas très technique. Conséquemment, elle se prête bien aux pilotes débutants et intermédiaires. Il y aura aussi des exercices de maîtrise du véhicule qui se dérouleront sur l’aire de dérapage.

La deuxième journée se passera sur le Tri Ovale avec une section de circuit plus sinueux rajoutée à ce dernier. Cette piste-ci peut être reconfigurée lors de la journée et peut facilement accommoder quatre configurations différentes.




L'inscription au cours
La période d'inscription "lève-tôt" se tiendra du 15 février au 11 avril 2006; les frais d'inscription lors de cette période seront de 300.00 $ CAN. (270.00 $ US). Par la suite, les frais d'inscription s'élèveront à 340.00 $ CAN. (306.00 $ US). Il faut être membre des clubs BMWCC, BMWCCA et PCA. Les inscrits qui ne sont pas déjà membres de ces clubs, auront des frais additionnels de 40.00 $ Can. (36.00 $ US) qui serviront à l'inscription au Club BMW du Québec.





Politique d'annulation ou de remboursement
Les annulations qui datent de trois semaines ou plus avant la date de l'évènement seront remboursées moins des frais administratifs de 35.00 $.Les annulations à moins d'une semaine du cours se verront remboursés 50% des frais d'inscriptions. Les participants qui sont inscrits mais qui ne se présentent pas ne seront pas remboursés.

Le club BMW de Québec fournira le dîner samedi et dimanche ainsi qu'un souper barbecue le samedi soir. Si un participant prévoit amener un invité additionnel, il est important que ce soit noté sur le formulaire d'inscription et que 30.00 $ CAN. (27.00 $ US) soit rajouté par personne.




Cours Théoriques
Tous les participants sont tenus de se présenter aux cours théoriques qui aborderont les sujets du comportement routier des véhicules ainsi que la théorie de conduite. Ces cours auront lieu tout au long de la fin de semaine et permettront aux participants d'approfondir leurs connaissances et d'apprécier les nuances de la conduite sportive. La présence aux cours théoriques est obligatoire; toute personne absente se verra retirer le droit de rouler en piste.







Inspection Technique
Les participants devront faire inspecter leur automobile et remplir un formulaire d'inspection technique avant de participer au cours de conduite. Ce formulaire peut être téléchargé à partir du site web du club BMW du Québec. L'inspection devra se faire par un mécanicien qualifié à trois semaines ou moins de la date du cours de conduite. L'équipe technique de club BMW du Québec révisera les formulaires d'inspection et ferra certaines vérifications additionnelles sur le champ. L'inspection technique aura lieu samedi matin entre 7:00 et 8:00 du matin. Il est important de noter que les participants sont responsables de la sécurité de leur véhicule. Toute personne n'ayant pas remis leur formulaire d'inspection technique ou que leur auto ne passe pas l'inspection technique pourrait se voir exclure de l'évènement et perdre leurs frais d'inscription.




Autres conditions
Tout participant doit: posséder un permis de conduire valide et avoir au moins 18 ans, porter un casque certifié Snell SA2000 ou SA2005. (Les casques SA95 ne sont plus acceptés. Les casques de motocyclette M2000 ou M2005 profiteront d'une dérogation d'un évènement.) Les véhicules doivent posséder un tableau de bord, deux sièges et des ceintures de sécurité du même type (pour le conducteur et le passager). Les harnais de course ne sont pas permis à moins que le véhicule soit équipé d’un arceau de sécurité ou d’une cage. Les décapotables doivent avoir des arceaux de sécurité approuvés et passer le test "du manche de balai". (Pour de plus amples renseignements concernant les décapotables, veuillez contacter l'instructeur en chef.) Aucune personne en dessous de l'age de 18 ans aura le droit de circuler dans les puits.

Veuillez noter que ceci n'est pas une école de course mais plutôt un cours de conduite de niveau avancé qui se déroulera sur une piste de course sous la surveillance d'instructeurs hautement qualifiés. Les participants apprendront à contrôler leur véhicule à des vitesses qui ne sont pas habituellement atteintes sur les routes publiques. Les techniques apprises permettront aux participants de mieux réagir lors d'une situation dangereuse qui pourrait être rencontrée sur les voies publiques. De plus, le cours permettra aux participants d'explorer les limites de leur pilotage ainsi que celles de leur véhicule. En aucun temps un participant sera encouragé ou obligé de dépasser les limites avec lesquelles il ou elle se sent à l'aise. Tout participant sera assigné à un groupe en fonction de son expérience, habiletés et type de véhicule. Les participants qui ne sont pas autorisés à rouler en solo devront rouler avec un instructeur. Le chronométrage n'est pas permis sous aucun prétexte! Toute personne se faisant prendre en train de chronométrer les séances se verra exclure de tout cours de conduite BMW présent et futur.





Pour de plus amples renseignements, veuillez contacter les personnes suivantes:

Henry Wong: Organisateur en chef/ Registrar bmwqc@yahoo.com
Cherif Gress: Instructeur en chef/ cherifgress@yahoo.com

[bmwqc]

BMW Club of Quebec



Spring Fling III at Sanair





The BMW Club of Quebec is proud to announce a two-day Advanced Driving School at the Sanair Motorsports Complex on Saturday & Sunday, May 13 & 14, 2006. Registration for this premium event will commence on February 15, 2006 through May 2, 2006. The registration and technical inspection forms are available for download on our website at (http://bmwquebec.ca/). To register, please complete the registration form and mail it in along with the payment (check, money order or bank draft accepted). Please have the technical inspection form completed by a licensed mechanic 3 weeks prior to the event and bring it to the track. Do not forget it at home as you will need it to complete your registration at the track.



The Sanair Motorsports Complex

The event will be held on both tracks of the complex. We will begin the first day, Saturday, May 13th on the road course, which also incorporates the drag racing strip and a small stock car oval. This track is approximately 1 ¼ miles long and not too technical so it is ideally suited to novices and beginners. As an added feature, we will also be holding car control exercises on a skid pad located on the infield of the track.

On the 2nd day, Sunday, May 14th, the event will move across the road to the high-speed banked tri-oval with infield. The configuration of this mile long tri-oval track can be easily changed to allow for up to 4 different layouts during the course of the day.


Registration

Early bird registration will be offered. The cost for BMWCC , BMWCCA and PCA members is Cdn $300 (USD $270) if entry and payment are received before April 11, 2006. The cost for entries submitted after this date will be Cdn $340 (USD $306). For those who wish to register for the event but are not members of BMWCC, BMWCCA or PCA car clubs, there will be an additional fee of Cdn $40 (US $36), which would be applied towards a one year membership with the BMW Club of Quebec.


Cancellation/Refund Policy

Cancellations will be refunded up to 3 weeks prior to the event less $35 administration fee. Cancellations within 1 week prior to the event will be refunded less 50% and no-shows at the event will not be refunded.

Your entry fee includes a light lunch with refreshments on both days PLUS an outdoor group BBQ dinner on Saturday evening. For additional guests, please indicate where appropriate on the registration form and add Cdn $30 (US $27) per person.


Classroom Sessions

All participants are required to attend classroom sessions to learn vehicle dynamics and driving techniques. These sessions will continue throughout both days to help you understand the fine art of high speed driving. Failure to attend will result in loss of driving privileges.


Tech Inspection

All participants will receive a Pre-Event Safety Inspection Report. This form may be downloaded from the website. You will be required to have a qualified individual/mechanic inspect your vehicle and verify its safety. This inspection should be performed within three weeks of the event. Our technical inspection crew will collect all Pre-Event Safety Inspection Reports and perform a spot check of every vehicle. Tech inspection will take place on Saturday morning from 7AM to 8AM. You are solely responsible for insuring that your vehicle is safe before you arrive at the track. Failure to present a completed Pre-Event Safety Inspection Report or failure to pass our spot check will disqualify you from participation in the event and your entry fee will be forfeited.


Other Requirements

All participants must present a valid driver's license and be at least 18 years of age. All participants must wear helmets bearing either Snell SA2000 or SA2005 certification. The older Snell SA95 certification is no longer accepted. Motorcycle helmets with Snell M2000 or M2005 certification will be accepted on a one-event basis only. All cars must have two seats of the same type, a dashboard, and equivalent seatbelts/harnesses for driver and passenger. Racing harnesses are forbidden if the car is not equipped with a rollcage or a rollbar. Convertibles must have approved roll bars and the “broomstick rule” applies. For further clarification concerning convertibles, please contact our Chief Instructor. No one under the age of 18 will be allowed in the pit area.

Please keep in mind that this is not a racing school but rather a safe, high speed driving school, conducted on a race track under close supervision by experienced instructors. You will learn how to handle and control your vehicle at speeds not normally attained on public roads. This will help to prepare you for emergencies in normal driving. It will also allow you to explore your capabilities as a driver and those of your vehicle. At no time will you be pushed or encouraged to go any faster than is comfortable for you. All participants will be organized into run groups in accordance with experience, skill, and type of vehicle. Participants not "signed off" will be required to drive with an instructor on board. Under no circumstances will timed laps be permitted! If you are seen with a stopwatch at any time, you will be asked to leave and forfeit your ability to participate in this or future BMW Club of Quebec events.




For more information, please contact the following:


Henry Wong: Event Chair / Registrar bmwqc@yahoo.com (bmwqc@yahoo.com)

Cherif Gress: Chief Instructor cherifgress@yahoo.com

[Lee]

Hi henry.

Can this annoncement be in a thread by itself? This way I can link it to other websites are advertize the event. As it is now, peolpe will ready a message about a box that is full and will not understand.

TIA

[pierre02ti]

I already accepted few weeks ago to organize the S&S and will use whatever help I can get on site to set the participants.

Pierre

[bmwqc]

I already accepted few weeks ago to organize the S&S and will use whatever help I can get on site to set the participants.

Pierre

Hi Pierre,

In our last meeting at Zanetti, I met with Antoine and Simon and they have both agreed to work with you on this project. I will ask them to get in touch with you

[bmwqc]

Hi folks,

Just a little reminder, for registration to Spring Fling III at Sanair, the early bird offer will expire on April 11th. If you are planning on attending this event, please do register by this date to qualify for the early bird price of $300.00


Henry

[SpeedTT]

J'aurai mon chequier avec moi demain chez Zanetti... au cas ou

[bmwqc]

Salut à tous.

Ceci est un rappel que les inscriptions pour Spring Fling III à Sanair fermeront dans deux semaines, le mardi 2 mai. Il ne nous reste qu'un petit nombre de places. Si vous prévoyez toujours vous inscrire (mais ne l'avez pas encore fait), alors ne tardez pas trop. Quand la date finale ou le nombre maximum d'inscription sera atteint, il sera trop tard. En espérant vous voir à Sanair.


Merci
Henry Wong
BMWQC




Hi again folks,

Just another friendly reminder. Registration for Spring Fling III at Sanair will end in 2 weeks on May 2nd. We still have have a very limited number of spots left. If you are planning to register (but have not done so already), please do so without delay. Once the maximum # of spots is reached, registration would be closed. I hope to see you all there.


Tks
Henry Wong
BMWQC

[Lee]

Hi everyone.

Here is the menu for the forthcoming SpringFlingIII. There will be a lunch and a BBQ on Saturday and a lunch on Sunday. Food is mostly male-oriented, which means there is not much salad, we will leave it to the rabbits... Meals are included in your registration fee. But if you have guests, then you must reserve dinner/lunch tickets in advance so that I can be prepared and buy extra food. There will probably not be food tickets for sale the day of the event. Contact Henry Wong for extra tickets.

Lunch on Saturday:
Hamburgers, chips, fruit salad and cookies, beverage.

BBQ on Saturday:
BBQ chicken, BBQ lamb, toulouse sausages, deer/turkey merguez, tomato rice and peppers, red wine, cake.

Lunch on Sunday:
Chicken and pork kebabs, baked potatoes and sour cream, fruit salad and cookies, beverage.

Karin will help me cook food.

[bmwqc]

Hi everyone.

Here is the menu for the forthcoming SpringFlingIII. There will be a lunch and a BBQ on Saturday and a lunch on Sunday. Food is mostly male-oriented, which means there is not much salad, we will leave it to the rabbits... Meals are included in your registration fee. But if you have guests, then you must reserve dinner/lunch tickets in advance so that I can be prepared and buy extra food. There will probably not be food tickets for sale the day of the event. Contact Henry Wong for extra tickets.

Lunch on Saturday:
Hamburgers, chips, fruit salad and cookies, beverage.

BBQ on Saturday:
BBQ chicken, BBQ lamb, toulouse sausages, deer/turkey merguez, tomato rice and peppers, red wine, cake.

Lunch on Sunday:
Chicken and pork kebabs, baked potatoes and sour cream, fruit salad and cookies, beverage.

Karin will help me cook food.

Good menu choices, chef Lee!

[Karin]

Excellent menu! I really don't understand the "it's male-oriented" comment... I always thought that all track weekend food is fair game and anything we ingest during that time has absolutely 0 calories.

It will be my pleasure to help out with cooking, I'll even bring my apron :)

Karin
(damn, now I have to go and buy an apron:p )

[Lee]

SpringFling will be a great way to kick-off the driving season with a BBQ. Even though the driving is nice at Sanair, in the past years, this event was mostly remembered for stuffing the drivers, instructors and helpers with animal proteins.

[SpeedTT]

Lors d'activités sociales semblables il est bien de ne pas avoir au menu de la soupe aux pois, des fèves aux lards et des cigares aux choux.:D :D

[Andrei]

Now I feel even better for not going to the Glen on that weekend. I will make sure not to eat breakfast.

[Lee]

Now I feel even better for not going to the Glen on that weekend. I will make sure not to eat breakfast.

Georges "Malaka" Moutafis has registered to the event. He might be in your group, that will make him a rabbit to chase... He was last year champion in Touring class.

[Dave]

Lors d'activités sociales semblables il est bien de ne pas avoir au menu de la soupe aux pois, des fèves aux lards et des cigares aux choux.:D :D

Avec un menu du genre, on seraient tous "auto-propulsés".... aux fumes!:o

[johnmdanskin]

Now I feel even better for not going to the Glen on that weekend. I will make sure not to eat breakfast.

now I feel even worse for going to the glen :cool:

at least I won't be worrying about gold e46s on my rear bumper.

[bmwqc]

now I feel even worse for going to the glen :cool:

at least I won't be worrying about gold e46s on my rear bumper.


John,

That gold colored beast has turned white

[johnmdanskin]

John,

That gold colored beast has turned white

andrei's avatar is out of date? Or just sentimentality for the old antique which was superceeded by a younger model, Trump style?

[bmwqc]

andrei's avatar is out of date? Or just sentimentality for the old antique which was superceeded by a younger model, Trump style?

Trump style it is .......... except it is not a white (as in babe), more like white (as in shark) - the great white shark!

[Andrei]

Working on the picture part. Gotta get to the track first.

[bmwqc]

Folks,

It's last call for Spring Fling III at Sanair. Registration will close after Tuesday May 2nd.

Henry

[Dave]

Est-ce que les spectateurs sont admis au spring Fling de Sanair? :confused:

Question de regarder les chums rouler.....

[Emre]

Est-ce que les spectateurs sont admis au spring Fling de Sanair? :confused:Yes, spectators are always welcome. All they have to do is sign a waiver. Don't forget, there will also be an informal show-n-shine in the spectator area parallel to the dragstrip on Saturday. There will be quite a few "non-drivers" at the event.

Emre

[Lee]

BTW SpringFling is our Open House event of the year. While not everyone will be offered drinks and food for free, at least all visitors are welcome to check-out. So, the more friends you can invite, the better.

Did I also mention that we warmly welcome your team cheerleaders if they wear short skirts...:rolleyes: and no top :D

[Dave]

Yes, spectators are always welcome. All they have to do is sign a waiver. Don't forget, there will also be an informal show-n-shine in the spectator area parallel to the dragstrip on Saturday. There will be quite a few "non-drivers" at the event.

Emre

Thanks!

Any chances of getting rides with any of the instructors, time permitting?

[Lee]

Yes, spectators are always welcome. All they have to do is sign a waiver. Don't forget, there will also be an informal show-n-shine in the spectator area parallel to the dragstrip on Saturday. There will be quite a few "non-drivers" at the event.

Emre

The Show'n'Shine will not be held parallel to the dragstrip anymore as it was deemed too difficult to manage in many aspects, and too dangerous because of the proximity with the track. It will be held on each side of the control tower. There is room for more cars (about 50), it will offer a better view, and is closer to the paddocks.

[Emre]

The Show'n'Shine will not be held parallel to the dragstrip anymore as it was deemed too difficult to manage in many aspects, and too dangerous because of the proximity with the track. It will be held on each side of the control tower. There is room for more cars (about 50), it will offer a better view, and is closer to the paddocks.Great. Even better :)

Emre

[Emre]

Any chances of getting rides with any of the instructors, time permitting?Generally, yes. They'll need helmets and must sign the waiver to get instructor rides. But keep in mind that each instructor is expected to give at least 1 ride to each of their students, and instructors only get 4 sessions per day. Students will always get priority (of course) but there is always some room available to give rides to guests and volunteers.

The first instructor session runs when all the students are in the classroom and most of the volunteers are occupied. If a guest wants an instructor ride, the absolute best time would be the first session of the morning.

Emre

[johnmdanskin]

I've had good luck getting instructor rides by standing near the entrance to the track with my thumb out. Really. There is usually someone who is willing to give you a ride. Running around the parked cars hasn't been too efficient for me. You can't ask enough people fast enough.

[Lee]

I've had good luck getting instructor rides by standing near the entrance to the track with my thumb out. Really. There is usually someone who is willing to give you a ride. Running around the parked cars hasn't been too efficient for me. You can't ask enough people fast enough.

Do you also happen to have great breasts and tight T-shirt? That, along with your thumb up, can really help having a ride...:D

[johnmdanskin]

Do you also happen to have great breasts and tight T-shirt? That, along with your thumb up, can really help having a ride...:D

it didn't work -that- well.

I was remembering this old joke: who has great tits, is blond, and lives in Wisconsin? ----- Salmon Rushdie. Now I think it applies to danish cartoonish, except they aren't blond anymore.

[Karin]

Do you also happen to have great breasts and tight T-shirt? That, along with your thumb up, can really help having a ride...:D

A friend of mine - who happens to be gorgeous - will be there... I have a feeling I'll have to make up a schedule for her rides.

Hey I know! I'll be her ride pimp! :p

[johnmdanskin]

A friend of mine - who happens to be gorgeous - will be there... I have a feeling I'll have to make up a schedule for her rides.

Hey I know! I'll be her ride pimp! :p


now you let me know, after I've decided to go to wgi instead. what did i say? but then she can't be more gorgeous than you are, and I already made the wrong decision, so you must have realized that there was no hope.

[silver ride]

That means that if I go hang around at Sanair I should consider bringing my helmet, right? :)

(note to self: do not forget my helmet)

[Emre]

A friend of mine - who happens to be gorgeous - will be there... I have a feeling I'll have to make up a schedule for her rides.Make sure to keep her away from Lee. Or at least get her Scotchguarded first ;)

Emre

[Dave]

That means that if I go hang around at Sanair I should consider bringing my helmet, right? :)

(note to self: do not forget my helmet)

An old wise man once told me "Never, but NEVER go to the track without your helmet".:cool:

[Dave]

As for getting a ride...

[Lee]

That means that if I go hang around at Sanair I should consider bringing my helmet, right? :)

(note to self: do not forget my helmet)

Yes, Stéphanie. You have everything it takes to get a ride. :rolleyes:

[Lee]

BTW I also invited our Vintage racer buddies to join us, both on the track and at the Show'n'Shine. This will make the event even more interesting for visitors.

[Lee]

Il reste des centaines de places... pour les visiteurs.

À tous ceux dont les noms paraissent sur ce thread et qui se sont inscrits à SpringFling et Fest Est, nous avons posté vos cartes de membre ce matin avec vos logbooks. Merci de votre patience. Le registraire de SpringFling va vous envoyer en fin de semaine un email avec tous les petits détails qui rendent la vie plus facile lors d'un événement.

Aussi, pour ceux qui veulent camper dans la nuit de samedi à dimanche, la tour du circuit tri-oval sera ouverte. Il y a déjà plusieurs personnes qui en profiteront...

[hamadyr]

Is there a "caravan" leaving Montreal on Saturday and Sunday morning ?

Where ? When ?

[Lee]

I am not aware of such a caravan, but if such a thing does exist, it will need to leave Montreal around 6AM in order to be at Sanair between 7h00 and 7h15.

Register, empty your car, have it tech inspected, check fluid levels, tire pressure and it is going to be 8h30, for the driver meeting. Times flies by quickly. 9h00, it is time to hit the classroom, while instructors get to dust off the track...

[bmwqc]

I am not aware of such a caravan, but if such a thing does exist, it will need to leave Montreal around 6AM in order to be at Sanair between 7h00 and 7h15.

Register, empty your car, have it tech inspected, check fluid levels, tire pressure and it is going to be 8h30, for the driver meeting. Times flies by quickly. 9h00, it is time to hit the classroom, while instructors get to dust off the track...

The main gate opens at 7:00am. Participants should arrive there a few minutes before. This means you should head out at 5:45AM or even a bit earlier (if you have never been there before).

Another final announcement will be issued soon.

[Lee]

Shall organizers and helpers be early? Like 6h45 early, in order to get the key and open the gate and tower.

[Wello]

Which track are we showing up at on Saturday morning?
Drag or Oval?

[Emre]

Which track are we showing up at on Saturday morning?
Drag or Oval?Here's the quote from the event announcement on our Club website:


Two Days, Two Circuits

The event will be held on both tracks of the Sanair Motorsports Complex. We will begin the first day, Saturday 13 May 2006, on the road course that also incorporates the dragstrip and small stock car oval. This track is approximately 1¼ miles long and not too technical. So, it is ideally suited to novices and beginners.

As an added feature, we will also be holding car control exercises on a skid pad located on the infield of the track. In addition, there will be a show-n-shine on Saturday afternoon from 12pm to 4pm as well as a track-side BBQ on Saturday evening.

On the second day, Sunday 14 May 2006, the event will move across the road to the high-speed banked tri-oval with infield. The configuration of this mile long tri-oval track can be easily changed to allow for up to four different layouts during the course of the day.You can read more here: http://www.bmwquebec.ca/bmw/activities/driving_schools/sanair_2006

Emre

[Gregster]

well I am leaving at 5am since it takes me 1.75 hours to get there.

If you guys need a hand with tech inspections I can help out

[Lee]

All registered drivers will receive an email by tomorrow with all details. BTW This weekend evenings were pretty cold. It is advised to bring two sleeping bags if you intend to sleep in the tower on Saturday night. Those staying at the track can even have a few beers at the nearby village where you can find "Brasserie Olympique" where staff is reputed to be very welcoming (if you are cute)...

[Gregster]

All registered drivers will receive an email by tomorrow with all details. BTW This weekend evenings were pretty cold. It is advised to bring two sleeping bags if you intend to sleep in the tower on Saturday night. Those staying at the track can even have a few beers at the nearby village where you can find "Brasserie Olympique" where staff is reputed to be very welcoming (if you are cute)...


hahahahaha :D

[bmwqc]

Here's the quote from the event announcement on our Club website:

You can read more here: http://www.bmwquebec.ca/bmw/activities/driving_schools/sanair_2006

Emre

The skidpad exercises will not be held. During an advance visit to the track facility, the skid pad circle was found to be very close to a ditch and therefore deemed unsafe to be incorporated into the DE.

[Gregster]

The skidpad exercises will not be held. During an advance visit to the track facility, the skid pad circle was found to be very close to a ditch and therefore deemed unsafe to be incorporated into the DE.

yep and some trailers

thats a pretty stupid place to put a skid pad

[Emre]

It is advised to bring two sleeping bags if you intend to sleep in the tower on Saturday night. Those staying at the track can even have a few beers at the nearby village where you can find "Brasserie Olympique" where staff is reputed to be very welcoming (if you are cute)...Are people camping out at the tower? Could be fun.

Emre

[Gregster]

Are people camping out at the tower? Could be fun.

Emre
Unless it is cold and windy like last night

I was suposed to sleep there but I ended up driving back home. There are some hotels in town

[bmwqc]

Are people camping out at the tower? Could be fun.

Emre

The tower (on the tri-oval side) will be available for camping on Saturday night only. It is unheated, but at least offers protecton from rain, wind ( and bears):D

[Emre]

The tower (on the tri-oval side) will be available for camping on Saturday night only. It is unheated, but at least offers protecton from rain, wind ( and bears):DWhat about the smell from the farms ;)

I'm undecided as to whether I want to stay downtown and commute back and forth or just stay in a hotel near the track. If a bunch of people were going to be in the area, that might persuade me to stick around. That's why I was asking.

Emre

[Gregster]

id be willing to split the cost of a hotel room if you are interested

its a 315km round trip from my house to the track

[Lee]

There are also several hotel in nearby St-Hyacinthe, where the Boston boys had stayed a few years back...

[Gregster]

There are also several hotel in nearby St-Hyacinthe, where the Boston boys had stayed a few years back...

Yep thats what I was talking about

[Nano]

Shall organizers and helpers be early? Like 6h45 early, in order to get the key and open the gate and tower.

Am I still your helper?

are helper duties the same discussed couple months ago? Or did they get re-assigned?

[bmwqc]

Am I still your helper?

are helper duties the same discussed couple months ago? Or did they get re-assigned?

Nano,

Of course I am holding you to your voluntary commitments! I will be posting these assignments sometime tomorrow.

[Gregster]

who gets the sit and look pretty assignment?

[bmwqc]

who gets the sit and look pretty assignment?

Would you be interested in volunteering?

[Lee]

Am I still your helper?

are helper duties the same discussed couple months ago? Or did they get re-assigned?

You are still my techie.

[bmwqc]

You are still my techie.

It's kinda fun to volunteer doing tech inspection, aint' it? With torque wrench in hand, giving the cars the 3rd degree, and just watching their nervous owners sweating and cringing (in the hope that nothing abnormal would be found.

[Lee]

It's kinda fun to volunteer doing tech inspection, aint' it? With torque wrench in hand, giving the cars the 3rd degree, and just watching their nervous owners sweating and cringing (in the hope that nothing abnormal would be found.

Yup. It is a good position. BTW Henry. I will print "Passed tech" stickers today and will bring them to your office.

[Nano]

Sainte-Pie


http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3508/monday5rd.jpg

[bmwqc]

Sainte-Pie


http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3508/monday5rd.jpg


Looks like rain for Saturday. BUt then again the forcast is never that accurate 5 days in advance.

[SpeedTT]

De toute façon si il pleut samedi cela sera une combinaison DE et skid pad:D :D

[Andre]

S'il pleut samedi, faites gaffe au virage qui mène sur la ligne droite (90 deg. droite au début du 1/4 de mile). C'est là ou ils font les burn-outs et il y'a énormément de caoutchouc, huile et je ne sais pas quoi d'autre qui, une fois mélangé avec la pluie en font une véritable p...a...t...i...n...o...i...r...e....

L'an passé lors du Solo1 avec ma 325 avec des Azenis passablement usés les roues patinaient en 4ième à la sortie du virage...

~a~

[bmwqc]

For all participants of Spring Fling III, please print this out before the event.

[bmwqc]

Am I still your helper?

are helper duties the same discussed couple months ago? Or did they get re-assigned?

Volunteer list for Spring Fling III at SanairBeverage procurement / transport - Henry
Food procurement/utensils/transport - Lee
Ice and Ice box - Cherif
Registration - Karin & André
Tech Inspection - Lee & Nano
Chef team - Grand Chef Lee, Karin & Marylou
Utility Team - Henry & Emre
Gatekeeper - Andrew

All volunteers must show up at the gate by 6:45AM

[Nano]

Just out of curiosity, how many students will be participating?

[bmwqc]

Just out of curiosity, how many students will be participating?

32. This is a good number. Not crowded and a pretty good attendance for 2 days on a smaller track.

[Nano]

that's great, it will be a kick ass start of the season (except for all the stuff I am missing.... like proper TIRES).

[bmwqc]

that's great, it will be a kick ass start of the season (except for all the stuff I am missing.... like proper TIRES).


What are you using for tires?

[Nano]

a month and 1/2 ago, I placed an order for new tires and wheels(expressedly to use on the track). The website said "in stock, ships within 24hours"... A week later I receive a phone call; Item is in back order:confused:! It will be here in 10 days, after 10 days, they say another 10 days, and finaly again, another 10 days... last update is for the 20th may.

Current tires arent' great on the track(KDW), was time to move up a notch. They also are a bit worned out(rear are at 4/32th), I was hoping to keep them a little longer, sanair will probably be the end of them.

Moral: if you order stuff, order ATLEAST 2 months before an event.

[bmwqc]

a month and 1/2 ago, I placed an order for new tires and wheels(expressedly to use on the track). The website said "in stock, ships within 24hours"... A week later I receive a phone call; Item is in back order:confused:! It will be here in 10 days, after 10 days, they say another 10 days, and finaly again, another 10 days... last update is for the 20th may.

Current tires arent' great on the track(KDW), was time to move up a notch. They also are a bit worned out(rear are at 4/32th), I was hoping to keep them a little longer, sanair will probably be the end of them.

Moral: if you order stuff, order ATLEAST 2 months before an event.

What kind of tires did you order? Steet or R-Com?

[Nano]

Again

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3320/temp5nx.jpg

[Lee]

As you can see, it is looking better. I don't mind a little rain as it teaches smoothness. Anyway, I started ordering and buying food, and let me tell you, 180 servings takes a lot of room. But thanks to my two helpers, Karin and Marylou, it is going to be fun to cook all that meaty stuff. Grilled lamb, BBQ chicken, duck sausages, deer sausages... Hmmm....

[SpeedTT]

Arrête moi ça Lee c'est pas la bouffe qui te rends joyeux mais le fait d'être entouré de la gente féminine:D

[bmwqc]

Arrête moi ça Lee c'est pas la bouffe qui te rends joyeux mais le fait d'être entouré de la gente féminine:D

C'mon Percy, your're just jealous of our master chef!

[Lee]

Arrête moi ça Lee c'est pas la bouffe qui te rends joyeux mais le fait d'être entouré de la gente féminine:D

They don't call me "The ladies' man" for nothing...:D

[Karim E36]

Down to 40% probability of rain for Saturday as off now (tuesday, 7:50pm) :)



Again

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3320/temp5nx.jpg

[Emre]

Don't get so hung up on the weather, guys! A driving school is just as much in the rain as in the dry. Plus, it's easier to approach the car's limits in the wet. There are just a couple of "problem areas" (mostly on the dragstip) and a slightly different line heading onto the main straight on the roadcourse. Your instructors and the event organizers will make sure that everyone is safe.

Emre

[snowmanmtl]

Are there noise restrictions at Sanair?

[Lee]

If Top Fuel and Jet dragsters are accepted, I am sure there is no noise restriction.

[Silverblades181]

I'll be there as a non-participant will I be able to buy food there? And will there be like a "caravan" leaving all at once?

[Andrei]

Are there noise restrictions at Sanair?

What have you got in mind? Did you get a jet powered vehicle?

[Lee]

I'll be there as a non-participant will I be able to buy food there? And will there be like a "caravan" leaving all at once?

I think there might be two or three tickets for sale, no more. I bought food for 60 peoples and I have 60 plates only.

32 drivers
13 instructors
5 flaggers/ambulance
7 helpers

Anyway, there is a Subway restaurant 2 minutes from the track.

[snowmanmtl]

What have you got in mind? Did you get a jet powered vehicle?
No, but Parker is a little slow in welding my exhaust for the Radical. Did ya get any blue paint on your pretty white car at the Glen?

[snowmanmtl]

David and Linda's track in Texas

http://www.eaglescanyon.com/photo/index.html

[Lee]

No, but Parker is a little slow in welding my exhaust for the Radical. Did ya get any blue paint on your pretty white car at the Glen?

Oups. Did Doughboy swap paint?

[snowmanmtl]

I don't think so. It's just a joke . They paint the guard rails at the Glen an ugly( and I'm Colour blind) pale blue. If they see a dent in their tin they run around looking for their paint. Nobody would paint their car with an ugly colour. Well, Andre did have a ..... well you know .

[Gregster]

Don't forget your tech inspection sheets guys

If anyone needs a tech inspection I can arrange something

[bmwqc]

Volunteer list for Spring Fling III at SanairBeverage procurement / transport - Henry
Food procurement/utensils/transport - Lee
Ice and Ice box - Cherif
Registration - Karin & André
Tech Inspection - Lee & Nano
Chef team - Grand Chef Lee, Karin & Marylou
Utility Team - Henry & Emre
Gatekeeper - Andrew

All volunteers must show up at the gate by 6:45AM










I need someone to volunteer to relieve the gatekeeper for about 30 minutes on either Saturday and/or Sunday so that he can eat his lunch. Whoever volunteers would eat his/her lunch first before filling in for the 1/2 hour. Any takers?

[Andrei]

Did ya get any blue paint on your pretty white car at the Glen?

Nah, no blue paint. Had some great M3 guys to run with. Many M3s with similar configuration (Ground Control suspensions, big brakes, and almost no engine mods, stuff like intake doesn't do much). One guy was very fast. Did some 2:12s at the Glen. By the end I was probably 1 or at most 2 seconds off of that. My datalogger did not work because the fuse blew in the cigarette lighter adaptor and local Walmart did not have any and it was too late for NAPA.

Did 1100 km on track in three days. Got sick of driving. I will definitely do more Trackmasters in the future. 5 hours of track per day on school days and open lapping days are just that, no need to wait while some fancy lads in cars with horsie logos take up half the track time.

[Emre]

I'll be there as a non-participant will I be able to buy food there? And will there be like a "caravan" leaving all at once?The organizers and volunteers need to be at the track at 6:45 and the students will need to be there for 7:00. I doubt visitors and the show-n-shiners will want to be there so early.

There was originally a plan for the show-n-shiners to meet near the Julep at 9:00-10:00 and caravan over together. But I dont know if that's still on.

Emre

[mox]

Unfortunately for the photography I won't be able to make it

But Jean-Sebastien Lessard (5 Type) will do it for me with 3 other photographers !

For the purchase of the photo CDs I will be the person to contact (mox@mox.ca)

[blaze_125]

Sent a PM instead.

[Lee]

Hi Blaze. Have you been confirmed by Henry, our registrar? Please get in touch with him. I know for sure that somebody has reserved a ticket for his sweet half. Perhaps it is you. In worst case scenario, we will have a couple of those tickets available until Saturday 12:00.

[SpeedTT]

I need someone to volunteer to relieve the gatekeeper for about 30 minutes on either Saturday and/or Sunday so that he can eat his lunch. Whoever volunteers would eat his/her lunch first before filling in for the 1/2 hour. Any takers?
Henry
je serai sans doute disponible pour combler ce besoin à l'heure du lunch.
Pour l'instant je ne suis volontaire à aucun poste car je serai prêt à prendre la relève pour n'importe quel besoin de dernière minute. J'en ai parlé avec Cherif il y a de cela quelques mois, je serai le "bouche-trou".

[Nano]

Don't get so hung up on the weather, guys! A driving school is just as much in the rain as in the dry. Plus, it's easier to approach the car's limits in the wet. There are just a couple of "problem areas" (mostly on the dragstip) and a slightly different line heading onto the main straight on the roadcourse. Your instructors and the event organizers will make sure that everyone is safe.

Emre

It's not for the track only(I love rain), it's for everything else. :)

[bmwqc]

Henry
je serai sans doute disponible pour combler ce besoin à l'heure du lunch.
Pour l'instant je ne suis volontaire à aucun poste car je serai prêt à prendre la relève pour n'importe quel besoin de dernière minute. J'en ai parlé avec Cherif il y a de cela quelques mois, je serai le "bouche-trou".

OK, Percy. You will be the official "Mr. Swing" volunteer!:D

[Emre]

A couple of people e-mailed and PM'ed me about where to meet on Saturday. Here's a detailed map of the facilities at Sanair:

http://www.sanairracing.net/images/2005/map_acces_eng.gif

On Saturday, we'll be on the "Road Circuit" side. The parking lot for everyone (drivers, instructors, spectators, volunteers, and show-n-shiners) is the point marked #1 in the pic.

On Sunday, we'll be across the street on the "Tri-Oval" side. The entrance to the tri-oval will be through the tunnel to the infield. This is the unmarked point near the intersection of Chemin Ste-Dominique and Rte 235, near the Petro T station. It can be easy to miss the gate if you don't know where to look. (We will NOT be using the upper parking lot on Route Gariepy!)

Hope this helps.

Emre

[Lee]

Hey guys. Everyone go to bed early tonight. Gates open at 7h00. Registration, car prep, track tech inspection, relax. It will already be 8h30, just in time for the driver meeting.

Those who have already received their logbook may read the first page to know what to do in the morning. We will have logbooks available at the track. Goodnite. :rolleyes:

[Gregster]

The petro T's air compressor isnt working... as I and some guys found out last week

[Silverblades181]

I have a portable compressor from Canadian Tire in my trunk, anyone who needs it just needs to ask :D

[Lee]

Un gros merci à tout le monde. À ceux qui ont participé comme élève, comme instructeur et comme volontaire. Un samedi du type "déluge" que pourtant aucun conducteur n'a entamé avec apréhension. Tout le monde roulait dans la piscine (entrée de l'ovale). Suivi d'un dimanche parfait sur le tri-oval. Du soleil, pas trop chaud, et aucun incident.

Un gros merci tout personellement à mes co-cuisinières avec qui nous avons cuisiné: 15Kg d'agneau, 180 brochettes de porc et poulet, 120 saucisses de canard et cerf, ainsi que 60 cuisses de poulet. Plus les patates au four et le riz aux légumes. Et croyez-moi, il ne restait plus rien... Plus de vin ni de bière non plus.

Le prochain événement est SummerDrift à Mécaglisse, suivi de 3 jours à Tremblant les 7-8 et 9 juillet. Nous avons ouvert 20 places additionnelles pour LCMT.

[951 gear head]

In gros merci au Club BMW pour un chaleureux acceuil. Une superbe gang de personnes bien du fun bonne bouffe, nouveaux ami(e)s
Bravo a mes étudiantes qui ont travailler fort pendent 2 jours. J ai vue une belle progression dans la conduite de plusieurs en FDS.
Encore une fois un gros merci et a la prochaine

[Gregster]

What an awesome weekend. Sure the rain sucked but it was good in way to teach smoothness.

Today was awesome weather. Ill probaly make a better post later, im pretty tierd now

[bmwqc]

Hello folks,



On behalf of the BMW Club of Quebec, I would like to thank you all for attending our Spring Fling III driving school at Sanair. We all got a bit wet on Saturday, but I hope you all enjoyed your weekend and had a good time. We have other driving events planned for this summer. We hope to see you there.


I would also like to take the opportunity to thank all the (numerous) volunteers who helped out, in particular Lee Vuong and André Boulay.



Best regards
Henry Wong
BMWQC

[Lee]

D'ailleurs, on s'excuse du retard de samedi matin. Le propriétaire de la piste nous a ouvert la tour avec 45 minutes de retard. Cependant, nous avons réussi à entrer en piste avec un retard de seulement 5 minutes. Vu le nombre très élevé de nouveaux participants, on peut considérer que le processus du matin s'est très bien passé. Cependant, on essaiera de faire mieux la prochaine fois.

[SpeedTT]

Et sans oublier Henry pour l'organisation de l'evenement. Dans de tels évenements tout les volontaires sont important. Certains occupants des positions plus visibles que d'autres. Évidemment Lee Cherif Henry la gang qui s'est occupé des inscriptions de la bouffe sont important mais je pense au type ( je ne me souviens plus de son nom) qui était à la barrière et qui est resté à son poste, tout seul sous la pluie toute la journée... et bien d'autres comme lui.
Encore merci à tous.
P.S: Lee tes gigots etaient SUBLIMES, ne te gêne pas pour nous faire la publicité sur la provenance de tes viandes.

Hello folks,



On behalf of the BMW Club of Quebec, I would like to thank you all for attending our Spring Fling III driving school at Sanair. We all got a bit wet on Saturday, but I hope you all enjoyed your weekend and had a good time. We have other driving events planned for this summer. We hope to see you there.


I would also like to take the opportunity to thank all the (numerous) volunteers who helped out, in particular Lee Vuong and André Boulay.



Best regards
Henry Wong
BMWQC

[WhiteFluffyBunny]

Un gros merci tout personellement à mes co-cuisinières avec qui nous avons cuisiné: 15Kg d'agneau, 180 brochettes de porc et poulet, 120 saucisses de canard et cerf, ainsi que 60 cuisses de poulet. Plus les patates au four et le riz aux légumes. Et croyez-moi, il ne restait plus rien... Plus de vin ni de bière non plus.

Bien merci Lee, ça m'a fait plaisir! I never thought, as a single gal, that I could cook for such a big family!!!! :p

Seriously, I had a blast this week, rain and shine!! Thanks everyone!

Virginie

[Lee]

Ça a l'air de "rien", mais tu as sauvé le weekend. Sans toi, je sais pas comment on aurait fait...

[SpeedTT]

Oui merci Virginie

[Nadim 323Ci]

C'etait mon premier envenement de track et j'ai adorer!

Merci a tous pour une fin de semaine incroyable! Et merci particulierement a mon instructeur Alan Bellavance!

PS: Est-ce qu'il reste de la place pour Mecaglisse??

[blaze_125]

I'd like to take a minute to thank the BMW Club for hosting such an event and welcoming new people with different brands of cars. I was the one driving 1 of the Yellow Lancer(the loudest one :rolleyes: ).

The event made me a better driver, a better mechanic and allowed me to know my car better. When I made the trip Ottawa/Montreal last friday, I thaught I knew my skills, and I thaught I knew my car. After 2 track days with you guys, I reallize I knew very little about my car and my-self.

Thanks a whole lot for this eye opener. Hopefuly I'll be able to attend more and more event. In his opening speach, Sherif, said: "Welcome to our addiction". Well... he was right. Track events are damn addictive :D

Big props to :BMW: Club for this successful event. Rain or shine, track days are awesome.

[Lee]

C'etait mon premier envenement de track et j'ai adorer!

Merci a tous pour une fin de semaine incroyable! Et merci particulierement a mon instructeur Alan Bellavance!

PS: Est-ce qu'il reste de la place pour Mecaglisse??

Oui, il reste de la place pour SummerDrift à Mécaglisse. La directrice de l'événement est Karin.

[Andre]

A big Thank you to Henry, Lee and all the instructors who were so generous with their time, sage advice and with giving rides.

I had a blast and am still smiling.

A few reflections:

1. As I was driving home on the highway last night, a Ford Explorer was coming up behind me and I went to give it a point by.

2. My knees are all bruised from bracing myself against the console and the door. Short term, I'll be getting knee pads, long term, it may be time to start thinking about upgrading my seats.

3. It was nice to put faces to a few of the names that I hadn't met before and just goes to confirm that on top of the great event, the best thing about the club is the people.

Cheers everyone,
~andre~

[WhiteFluffyBunny]

Ça a l'air de "rien", mais tu as sauvé le weekend. Sans toi, je sais pas comment on aurait fait...

Il ne faudrait pas oublier mon amie Chantal qui nous a donné un fier coup de main également! Sans oublier qu'elle attrapé la "fièvre" automobile! ;) Thanks to Emre for giving Chantal a ride she's still talking about!

Virginie

PS: Beware, I can now confirm that I will be a student at Mecaglisse with my ferocious Bunny! :D

[Emre]

Thanks to Emre for giving Chantal a ride she's still talking about!It was my pleasure.


Beware, I can now confirm that I will be a student at Mecaglisse with my ferocious Bunny! :DYay :)

Incidentally, you might have noticed that 2 other drivers (including one of the instructors) was running an Accent.

Emre

[Emre]

I'd like to take a minute to thank the BMW Club for hosting such an event and welcoming new people with different brands of cars. I was the one driving 1 of the Yellow Lancer(the loudest one :rolleyes: ).Thanks for coming all the way from Ottawa to be with us. The three Lancers seemed to be doing quite well in their group!



Thanks a whole lot for this eye opener. Hopefuly I'll be able to attend more and more event. In his opening speach, Sherif, said: "Welcome to our addiction". Well... he was right. Track events are damn addictive :DSadly, Cherif is correct! This is a very addictive hobby of ours. Worse than crack.

Emre

[WhiteFluffyBunny]

Incidentally, you might have noticed that 2 other drivers (including one of the instructors) was running an Accent.

Well, off course... Bunnies reproduce! :p Seriously, I liked seeing them on the track, it kind of gave me an idea of how far I can take my car.

Virginie

[911AS]

Merci a toute l'organisation. Je sais tres ce que cela exige comme travail avant, pendant et apres.

Meme si je peux maintenant rouler en solo avec le club, j'ai trouve le niveau des instructeurs tres avance et j'ai demande a quand meme avoir la possibilite d'avoir un suivis avec un instructeur pour ameliore encore plus mon pilotage. Il y a encore bcp de travail avant que j'ai une autonomie 'autodidacte'. C.a.d evalue une piste, la meilleure ligne selon les conditions et quelques techniques avances, ne jamais manque un apex, etre plus 'smooth' avec les controles etc. :)

J'aimerais dire merci a mon instructeur Jean-Luc Bergeron qui a ete patient avec qui j'ai pris plaisir a piloter. Et comment oublier LA 'ride for my money' de Sebastien Rochon. Un electro-choc sur le concept douceur et controle = (beaucoup) vitesse meme avec une petite sentra (eh oui, c'est possible). :D

[Karim E36]

Je voulais moi aussi remercier tout le monde pour ce weekend incroyable.
Merci aux organisateurs, instructeurs, volontaires et etudiants!

Thanks a lot Phil for your instruction! I had a great time and I can't wait to get on the track again.

C'etait un peu froid et mouillé Samedi mais c'est vite oublié!

Maintenant je me rends compte a quel point j'ai de l'apprentissage a faire avant de "devoir" modifier ma voiture. Je suis aussi tres impressionné par le potentiel d'une voiture de rue. :eek:

Un weekend super le fun et j'ai appris plein de choses.

Merci encore a tous!

:)

[mz3bo]

Hey,

I saw a lot of people taking pictures on that day, is there any chances we can get them ? Who should we contact ?

[alex]

Hey - awesome event - thanks to all that made it possible and to all the instructors!
does anybody have an e30 engine to donate - mine is about to fall apart? :)
this addiction of ours is more expensive than crack i believe (not that i would know)
:)
cheers - I had a blast (at least the first day and a half)
A.

[bmwqc]

Hey,

I saw a lot of people taking pictures on that day, is there any chances we can get them ? Who should we contact ?

Borin,

The person to contact for pictures is Benoit. Those 3 photographers at Sanair are part of his group. You can reach him at mox@mox.ca

Henry

[Karim E36]

A friend of mine took some pictures and videos. He will probably post them soon.

My brother (Nadim in the blue E46 coupe) took a few pictures on Sunday too. They should be up soon too :)

[Lee]

Pictures? There was a team of photographers for both days. They will sell CDs to all drivers, with tons of pictures on them. As soon as they are ready, they will let us know. They have probably 4 thousands pictures to sort out, car by car. Some of the pictures will be on our website in lower resolution.

[Emre]

I saw a lot of people taking pictures on that day, is there any chances we can get them ? Who should we contact ?The official photographer of the BMW Club of Quebec is Benoit. He goes by the name "Mox" on this board. Send him a PM and make sure to give him the following info:

Your contact info
Your rungroup and car number
What make/model/color of car you drove

He will need at least a week or two in order to process the pics.

Emre

[Karin]

Bravo to Henry, Lee, everyone who participated in the organization of this event! -Boy! do I have huge shoes to fill ;) at Mécaglisse!

Thanks V and Chantal for keeping our bellies full, Antoine (for torquing my wheels) and the photographers for capturing the Mazda's maiden voyage!

I had an amazing weekend, the M3 :p held up well, even got positive comments from the other Master Yoda who tried it out and tossed it around a little... I figure that was an honor.
My back is killing me from bracing myself in the left hand turn (notice no plural) on Sunday but man! what fun that was!!!

I'd like to say, I have a couple of spots left for Mécaglisse, hurry up and register before the word gets out :)

Crack - shmack! I want more!

Karin

[Lee]

I believe that ONE common thing was shown to ALL drivers: their cars had WAY MORE potential that they thought they had. It is a very humbling experience for everyone. And often the time to realize it is not the time anymore to spend money on "upgrades", but rather to have more track days.

After driving all day long in the wet on Saturday, the trip back to Montreal under the rain must have felt very comfortable. Which is also a proof that something was learned on the wet track during the day. Performance drivers schools are not necessarely to teach you how to become race drivers, but just simply better drivers. Period. Students will realize during this week that their driving has changed on the street. The greatest thing is that this weekend can even save your life one day or another.

[Gregster]

A friend of mine took some pictures and videos. He will probably post them soon.

My brother (Nadim in the blue E46 coupe) took a few pictures on Sunday too. They should be up soon too :)

That was you.. omg we were in the same group and I didnt even say hi

Now I feel bad

[enjoku]

On behalf of MCCC (the mitsu guys) I would like to thank Emre and the BMC Club of Quebec for extending their invitation to us. It was a real eye opener for me as I learned a lot of things about driving and how to push myself and the potential of my car. The course gave me a new perspective on driving. Big props to the organizers and all the very friendly and helpful people on the track. Thanks to Emre for showing me the ropes and giving me real time feedback. The event was awesome and I am looking forward to attending more event. I was the one in the Silver Lancer who everyone thought was Emre's car.

Thanks again Guys and Gals
-Emil

[Andre]

Hé Percy,
ou es-tu passé dimanche?

Andrei s'est tanné car il n'avait plus de belle Audi TT à courir après et conséquemment, il a sorti l'artillerie lourde et est allé chercher sa M3.

Ceci étant, il avait une petite Miata qui s'est faufillé dans notre groupe et qui allait très bien.

~a~

[Gregster]

On behalf of MCCC (the mitsu guys) I would like to thank Emre and the BMC Club of Quebec for extending their invitation to us. It was a real eye opener for me as I learned a lot of things about driving and how to push myself and the potential of my car. The course gave me a new perspective on driving. Big props to the organizers and all the very friendly and helpful people on the track. Thanks to Emre for showing me the ropes and giving me real time feedback. The event was awesome and I am looking forward to attending more event. I was the one in the Silver Lancer who everyone thought was Emre's car.

Thanks again Guys and Gals
-Emil

I was the guy in the red accent, yeah I got confused because of the rear wing

[Karim E36]

That was you.. omg we were in the same group and I didnt even say hi

Now I feel bad

Were you the red Accent? [EDIT: just read your last post]

I was driving the dark blue E46 sedan and my brother had his E46 coupe. We were both in group C.

First time on the track. :)

[Gregster]

Were you the red Accent? [EDIT: just read your last post]

I was driving the dark blue E46 sedan and my brother had his E46 coupe. We were both in group C.

First time on the track. :)

Yep I was the accent. I just realized that we were in the same group

Infact i passed you guys on the highway going down both days

[Karim E36]

Yep I was the accent. I just realized that we were in the same group

Infact i passed you guys on the highway going down both days

Yes you're right. I remember seeing your car on HWY 10 early early morning.

[Wello]

This was my first event with the BMW club, and my feedback on the weekend is no different from all the other people who have posted so far... great club, great food, and espacially awesome people (instructors, volunteers and fellow students).

Special thanks to George Moutafis for helping me finding out a solution to my sheared turbo flange studs (which kept me from running the last session on Sunday...:mad: ). Hopefully, thanks to his advice... I'll fix it once and for all (after two years of playing around with this recurring problem..)

Looking forward to seeing you at future events.

b00b00... c'était moi la petite miata... ta voiture c'était laquelle?

[5 Type]

Hi guy,

Lee asked me to give you a little teaser of what we took this weekend.

This is a bref example of the 3000+ picture our team took. I think it will take us a bit of the week to sort them out and categorize them by car.

Please order CD of your pictures. To do so, email Benoit at mox@mox.ca.

See you all at your next track day.

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1236-1/00.jpg

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1239-1/01.jpg

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1241-1/02.jpg

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1243-1/03.jpg

[5 Type]

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1245-1/04.jpg

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1247-1/05.jpg

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1249-1/06.jpg

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1251-1/07.jpg

[Gregster]

amazing pics

[Lee]

You guys are amazing. Extremely nice shots. I really like this one. It looks as you were really in the action. Fantastic job.

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1241-1/02.jpg

And this one too. Well. I tried to brake too deep. But I never fell like a put one wheel off track. I am pretty sure this shot has been photoshopped:rolleyes: .

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1245-1/04.jpg

[Emre]

And this one too. Well. I tried to brake too deep. But I never fell like a put one wheel off track. I am pretty sure this shot has been photoshopped:rolleyes: .

http://jsl.studiosj.com/gallery/d/1245-1/04.jpgThat's 1 wheel off. 3 more to go ;)

Emre

[Gregster]

thats a hardcore JDM rodeo drift

[SpeedTT]

Sotie de famille oblige à la fête des mères. De plus j'avais des billets pour un spectacle de l'OSM à 13:30. Mais j'étais de coeur avec vous.
Hé Percy,
ou es-tu passé dimanche?

Andrei s'est tanné car il n'avait plus de belle Audi TT à courir après et conséquemment, il a sorti l'artillerie lourde et est allé chercher sa M3.

Ceci étant, il avait une petite Miata qui s'est faufillé dans notre groupe et qui allait très bien.

~a~

[horusra]

Merci à toute l'organisation pour l'excellent travail... Come rain or come shine. fabuleux travail de la part de Henri, Cherif, Lee, les cuisiniers(ères), flaggers, les bénévoles, les instructeurs et les pilotes pour leur courtoisie et professionalisme sur la piste. On a eu un plaisir malsain à piloter la Porsche et la BMW, moi et ma femme, sur ce circuit à haute vitesse.

Thanks to Mike Kenney for his driving secrets, his skills and knowledge of the 911s and for the ride with his girlfriend's Audi... Merci à Philippe Desjardins pour la poursuite en Porsche 944 Turbo derriere la M3 de Cherif en drift et finallement, le plat de résistance, l'ultime Ride avec Cherif dans sa M3 E30 chaussée sur slick Hoosiers...à 115 mph à l'entrée de la derniere courbe de l'ovale, sortie à 85 mph et...BOOOUMMMMMMM une crevaison arrière gauche. T'es fort Cherif, j'ai tout entendu mais rien senti...

Je recommencerais n'importe quand. Je serai à Mécaglisse.

This is a professional racing club and it shows.

[Andre]

b00b00... c'était moi la petite miata... ta voiture c'était laquelle?

Salut, l'Acura EL qui essayait d'utiliser toutes ses 127 hp.

Ohhhh que la ligne droite, euh... je veux dire l'ovale était longue.
Une fois que l'auto atteint sa vitesse de croisière, le virage avant la ligne droite arrivait à retenir toute mon attention.:eek:

André

[mz3bo]

Merci à toute l'organisation pour l'excellent travail... Come rain or come shine. fabuleux travail de la part de Henri, Cherif, Lee, les cuisiniers(ères), flaggers, les bénévoles, les instructeurs et les pilotes pour leur courtoisie et professionalisme sur la piste. On a eu un plaisir malsain à piloter la Porsche et la BMW, moi et ma femme, sur ce circuit à haute vitesse.

Thanks to Mike Kenney for his driving secrets, his skills and knowledge of the 911s and for the ride with his girlfriend's Audi... Merci à Philippe Desjardins pour la poursuite en Porsche 944 Turbo derriere la M3 de Cherif en drift et finallement, le plat de résistance, l'ultime Ride avec Cherif dans sa M3 E30 chaussée sur slick Hoosiers...à 115 mph à l'entrée de la derniere courbe de l'ovale, sortie à 85 mph et...BOOOUMMMMMMM une crevaison arrière gauche. T'es fort Cherif, j'ai tout entendu mais rien senti...

Je recommencerais n'importe quand. Je serai à Mécaglisse.

This is a professional racing club and it shows.

Wow... C'etait sur le dernier tour ca ? Quand je suis parti ?

[mykesheehy]

jai bien apprecier parler avec toi lee sur les nouvelles disposition du club bmw....et sur les next events.....
tjrs tres instructif de t ecouter...
jvais etre present a tremblant et meca ....on se voit la bas

[Marvel]

Salut tous le monde,

Voici un petit teaser de mes 1600+ photos du week.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/Marvelcpq/_MG_3592.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/Marvelcpq/_MG_3874.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/Marvelcpq/_MG_3221.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/Marvelcpq/_MG_4469.jpg

[Marvel]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/Marvelcpq/_MG_4962.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/Marvelcpq/_MG_4507.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/Marvelcpq/_MG_5216.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/Marvelcpq/_MG_5101.jpg

Pour plus de photos / For more pictures

http://sgagne.studiosj.com/gallery/v/En+Action/2006+05+13-14+-+Club+BMW+QC+SpringFling+III/

[Lee]

Wow. Hey les boys. Vos photos sont de mieux en mieux. Super. Pleins de "moments magiques".

[Emre]

The quality of the photos has been getting better and better with each event. Keep up the good work!

Emre

[Karim E36]

Great pictures!

On se sent vraiment dans l'action. On peut presque sentir le caoutchouc et le freins... ;)

[Lee]

Apply power until you are 180 degres with your initial trajectory. Then both feet in. Fun, fun, fun. Everyone should drive on lousy tires (Kuhmo 712). After all, this is NOT racing...

http://sgagne.studiosj.com/gallery/d/5230-2/_MG_4564.jpg

[blaze_125]

This is a professional racing club and it shows.

I don't want to be seen as an @ss here... but this is a Driving School, not a racing club;) I just thaught I'd clarify this :D

Now back on topic fellas, and bring us more pictures:cool:

[Lee]

Blaze, you are 100% right. This is a drivers school, not a race. Nonetheless, many people will incorrectly use the word "racing" for anything that happens on a racetrack. Lapping is not "racing". Drivers schools are not "racing" either. I believe that slowly, people will change their vocabulary. Thanks for mentioning this miss-use of vocabulary.

[Gregster]

Amazing pics

http://sgagne.studiosj.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core%3ADownloadItem&g2_itemId=5303
woot

[mox]

Felicitation et Merci a Jean-Sebastien et Stephane pour les photos en fin de semaine !

Je n'ai pas pu y etre, mais je crois que vous avez plus que bien fait le travail :)

En plus de la temperature qui n'etais vraiment pas de votre cote !

Thumbs up les gars !

[SpeedTT]

J'aime beaucoup la 325 xi ... sur 3 roues...

[Marvel]

J'aime beaucoup la 325 xi ... sur 3 roues...

Elle est super mais si on regarde le coté difficulté technique ,la photo de toi dans ta TT et la M3 noir a Hugo sont les plus belle.:)

Crée un effet de filé aussi grande tout en gardant la voiture aussi clair c'Est tres difficile.

[mz3bo]

Elle est super mais si on regarde le coté difficulté technique ,la photo de toi dans ta TT et la M3 noir a Hugo sont les plus belle.:)

Crée un effet de filé aussi grande tout en gardant la voiture aussi clair c'Est tres difficile.

Hey Marvel,

NIce pics... t'as pas d'autre photos de ma 911 TT noire ?

MErci

[mox]

Pour des photos additionnelles de vos voitures, il est possible de commander un CD contenant toutes les photos de votre voiture lors de l'evenement.

Les CDs coutent 20$ chaque et vous pouvez passer les commandes a mox@mox.ca

Je devrais recevoir sous peu, les photos des photographes et commencer les CDs, je l'espere, avant la fin du mois.

Il sera donc possible de faire la distribution des CDs au prochain meet au Cafe Zanetti.

[SpeedTT]

quelle sera la qualité des photos (Mg) et on estime a combien de photos par voiture ?

[mox]

Je ne peux malheureusement pas faire d'estimations sur la quantitee de photos pour le moment, mais pour la qualite, les appareils etaient des 6.3 Megapixels DSLR et les CDs contiendront des JPEGS full size

[SpeedTT]

À 5 Mégapixels et plus ... ça fait de belles photos

[mox]

À 5 Mégapixels et plus ... ça fait de belles photos

Il n'y a pas que les Megapixels qui comptes, mais aussi le fait que les appareils sont des DSLR (sensor presque aussi gros que du 35mm) et le talent des photographes ;)

[911AS]

J'aime beaucoup la 325 xi ... sur 3 roues...
J'ai pris l'exemple sur mon instructeur (325). ;)


http://sgagne.studiosj.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core%3ADownloadItem&g2_itemId=5408

[Karim E36]

Est-ce qu'on pourra voir les photos (en basse resolution ou avec un watermark) avant de commander un CD?

J'aimerais savoir combien il y en a, les angles, la qualité, etc, car j'imagine qu'ils doit y en avoir quelques unes de moins bonnes.

Tout ce que j'ai vu jusqu'a present est excellent. J'ai hate de voir le reste. :)




Pour des photos additionnelles de vos voitures, il est possible de commander un CD contenant toutes les photos de votre voiture lors de l'evenement.

Les CDs coutent 20$ chaque et vous pouvez passer les commandes a mox@mox.ca

[mox]

Pour un extra 5$ par CD, je pourrais le faire..

C'est au moins un bon 20-30 minutes pour mon ordi, de faire des thumbnails et appliquer le watermark sans que je puisse m'en servir, en plus de toute la logistique derriere ca..

L'an dernier vous avez apprecies les CDs, je n'ai jamais eu de mauvaises critiques et la qualite des photos augmente d'evenement en evenement.. En plus du prix peu eleve des CDs par rapport a certains autres organismes..

Je trouve ce temps d'extra a processer les photos pour le meme resultat peu justifiable, mais j'accepte les opinions inverses et les commentaires a ce sujet

[Lee]

J'aimerai souligner qu'au dernier événement de Audi à Tremblant en Octobre, il y avait une équipe qui faisait des photos et vendait les CD pour... $75usd. Alors je pense que pour $20 pas CD, il ne faudrait pas demander trop d'extras. Les échantillons qui nous ont été montrés montrent bien que l'ensembles des photos est assez excitant. Sur certaines pistes, on peut choisir et faire imprimer les photos, sur place, la même fin de semaine, pour $30usd par photo...

[mox]

Merci Lee pour la comprehension

[SpeedTT]

Je ne sais pas si vous etes comme moi, mais oui j'aime bien voir des photos de ma bagnole en action. Mais j'aime ausii BEAUCOUP regarder les photos des autres. L'inconvénient dans la formule actuelle est que je peux m'acheter un cd sur lequel je retrouverai des photos de ma voiture point. Je n'aurai pas la chance d'avoir la belle photo de la M3 noire ou de la cascade de Cherif.
Ainsi, et la je m'adresse autant aux pilotes qu'a Mox. Que penseriez vous qu'après entente avec les photographes pour un montant forfaitaire, le club facture l'evenement aux participants en y incluant le cd qui sera produit à la fin de l'evenement. CD sur lequel on retrouvera l'ensemble des photos prises ( après nettoyage). Un prix forfaitaire permetterais aux photographes de se garatir un revenu. Cette garantie se traduitrait par un prix des plus aléchant. Donc tout le monde y trouverait son comte et en plus on aurait plus photos... qui feraient jaser. Lorsque je parle de CD, si le volume est trop grand on arlerais de DVD ?
Maintenant a vous la parole

[Marvel]

SpeedTT j'aime bcp ta proposition , c'Est une chose que l'on pourrais discuter pour les prochains évenement.

mz3bo ,ou j'ai d'autre photos de ta voitures, a 3 photographes on va en avoir plusieurs et a plusieurs endroit de la piste et plusieurs angle different.

Pour ma par mes photos sont du 8 mégapixels, ca fais de tres beaux agrandissement.

Sur place on avais un 6.3mp un 8mp et un 10.2mp.

[Andre]

Excellente idée Percy! Je serais partant. De plus, j'aimerais bien un t-shirt.
Ceci étant, c'est une discussion pour un autre thread.

~a~

[Hugo]

Super photos, j'ai hate de voir le reste, j'aime bien l'idée de speedtt d'inclure les photos dans les frais d'inscriptions et d'apprécier les photos des autres voitures.

Il n'y a rien de plus amusant que de conduire sous la pluie et de se sentir en controle.

Un événement tres réussi.

[Lee]

Que penseriez vous qu'après entente avec les photographes pour un montant forfaitaire, le club facture l'evenement aux participants en y incluant le cd qui sera produit à la fin de l'evenement.

Il n'y a pas si longtemps, on parlait d'inclure le minimum d'extras afin de pouvoir présenter des événements le moins cher possible. Pas de diner, pas de casquette, pas de t-shirt. Je préfère laisser les conducteurs décider de ce qu'ils vont acheter ou non.

[mox]

Percy, l'idee avait deja ete lancee a un souper au Cafe Zanetti et quelqu'un avait lance l'idee de trouver un commanditaire pour defrayer les prix des CDs.. Je crois que l'idee en est restee la..

Pour ce qui est de CD/DVD, ca ne revient pas plus cher et je vais etre tres franc.. mettre toutes les photos d'un weekend dans un CD serait BEAUCOUP MOINS de travail pour moi et toute mon equipe.. Ca parrait simple, mais faire le tri de toutes les photos par # de voiture c'est un travail qui s'etale sur plusieurs soirees et c'est tres penible

L'idee aussi de vendre des CD a des gens avec toutes les photos du weekend a ete lancee, le seul probleme est que 2-3 personne acheteraient 1 CD et splitteraient les couts entre eux.. Je tiens a AU MOINS, defrayer les couts de gaz/lunch/locations d'objectifs photo/etc.. quand moi et les autres photographes allons aux evenements et si possible, donner un petit extra monetaire a chacun.

[5 Type]

Une autre idée serai d'avoir 1 CD par participant comme on le fait présentement. En plus, lorsqu'il y a plusieures voitures sur une même photo, plutot que de mettre cette photo sur le CD de chacun des courreurs on pourrait mettre ces "photos de groupe" sur tous les CD.

Néanmoins, l'idée d'avoir 1 cd par évènement me parrait merveilleux.... plus de triage, ça serait si simple.

Pour vous donner une idée, le triage des photos par voiture de cette fin de semaine va me prendre environs 3-5 soirés.

[blaze_125]

Est-ce que c'est possible d'acheter un cd de photo avec tout le monde dessu? Pas pour le prochain événement mais bien pour celui de Sanair. Je l'aime mon auto, mais j'aime voire les autres aussi.

[Lee]

Un CD peut storer 700Mb et un DVD peut storer 4.4Gb. J'ai l'impression que pour avoir toutes les photos, il faudra utiliser un DVD. Je suggère que Mox charge plus cher pour toutes les photos sur DVD. $30? C'est encore moins cher que les $75usd chargés par les autres...

[5 Type]

Si on met toutes les photos sur DVD, c'est officiel que ce ne sera pas les photos en taille originale car j'ai personellement shooté pour 3G, Stef pour probablement 4G.

Sinon il pourrait être possible de faire une sélection qui ne dépasse pas les 4.4G en taille originale, mais encore là c'est difficile de décider quelles photos on coupe.

[Karim E36]

2 DVD?:cool:

[mox]

5 Type et moi avons discuté un peu plus tôt.

Nous avons une nouvelle formule à vous proposer. Nous pourrions charger un prix additionnel aux participants des evenements, ainsi il nous serait possible de fournir à chaque courreur une copie des photos de l'évènement sur DVD.

Les nouveaux prix pourraient etre les suivants:
Diviser nos prix en 2 (10$ au lieu de 20$ et 15$ au lieu de 30$(tremblant 3 jours)). Par exemple, ce prix équivaut à 3% du coût de l’inscription du SpringFling.

C'est sur que ca va un peu a l'encontre des valeurs actuelles du club voulant reduire le cout des evenements au minimum. Cependant, ca aiderait beaucoup notre équipe de photographes.

Jean-Sébastien(5 Type) et Stephane(Marvel) ont recemment fait l'achat de lentilles zoom "expres" pour shooter des voitures sur des piste et ces lentilles leurs ont coutés un bon 3000$.. Il me ferait plaisir de redistribuer les profits des evenements dans l'equipement qui, justement, sert a faire des photos. Dans mon cas, mon appareil est sur le point de rendre l'ame.. un des boutons de shutter ne fonctionne plus, je dois faire un tour de passe-passe pour faire des photos.. L'equipement finit par s'user et je ne suis pas le seul dans cette situation.

Je ne dit pas ça parce que je veux faire pitié, mais plutot parce qu’on 'investit' dans notre materiel photo pour vous.. les prix sont deja tres bas a cote des 70$USD de certaines autres compagnies.. et en garantissant un certain nombre d'achats avec un % minime du prix de participation(environ 3%), le cout unitaire des CD/DVD de photos serait reduit et le materiel utilise pour faire celles-ci serait de bonne ou meilleure qualitee.

L'idee a ete lancee. Pour cette année je crois qu'il est un peu tard, meme si nous voulions changer quelque chose.. Il faudrait peut-etre faire un sondage aupres des participants a savoir si 10$ pour des evenements 'mineurs' et 15$ pour les evenements majeurs de 3 jours a Tremblant est un extra de trop pour avoir un/des CD/DVD de photos de l'evenement complet.

[mox]

Cette idee permettrais de diminuer le temps qui est pris pour faire le tri des photos (qui prends un bon 3-4 soirees a chaque photographe) et nous permettrais d'etre pret a envoyer les CDs par la poste dans les jours suivants l'evenement.

[blacksheep]

Cette idee permettrais de diminuer le temps qui est pris pour faire le tri des photos (qui prends un bon 3-4 soirees a chaque photographe) et nous permettrais d'etre pret a envoyer les CDs par la poste dans les jours suivants l'evenement.une petite question

est-ce VRAIMENT nécessaire de remettre aux membres des photos d'une si haute résolution? Je ne pense pas qu'on aie besoin de photos de 8M px à moins de vouloir imprimer des posters 48" x 60"

Peut-etre que s'entenfre sur une résolution "suffisante" permettrait de mettre toutes les photos d'un événement sur un seul DVD qui serait inclus dans le prix d'inscription.

Ou sinon tu pourrais garder qq DVD avec toutes les photos "full resolution" et mettre des versions en plus basse résolution (genre 1.5 - 2 meg / photo en jpg) sur les DVD à distribuer.

Comme ça il rentre 2000+ photos par DVD avec une résolution suffisante pour 99.9% du monde et si qqn veut imprimer la photo de son auto "wall size" il n'aurait qu'à vous demander l'original.

[alex]

une petite question

est-ce VRAIMENT nécessaire de remettre aux membres des photos d'une si haute résolution? Je ne pense pas qu'on aie besoin de photos de 8M px à moins de vouloir imprimer des posters 48" x 60"

Peut-etre que s'entenfre sur une résolution "suffisante" permettrait de mettre toutes les photos d'un événement sur un seul DVD qui serait inclus dans le prix d'inscription.

Ou sinon tu pourrais garder qq DVD avec toutes les photos "full resolution" et mettre des versions en plus basse résolution (genre 1.5 - 2 meg / photo en jpg) sur les DVD à distribuer.

Comme ça il rentre 2000+ photos par DVD avec une résolution suffisante pour 99.9% du monde et si qqn veut imprimer la photo de son auto "wall size" il n'aurait qu'à vous demander l'original.

I dont mind this but the first thing that comes to mind is :
if some friends attend the event then they would buy 1 CD and then copy it. result: MOX would get 20$ instead of sevarl x20$ ....

*YARRRR*

[blacksheep]

no, my suggestion is to make the DVD included with the event price and every participant gets one. Like Benoit said, 2 day event : 10$. 3-day event : 15$

If they reduce pictures to 2 meg compressed in JPEG format (which is plenty for printing up to 8 x 10 or even bigger), they could fit 2200 pictures per DVD

[mox]

une petite question

est-ce VRAIMENT nécessaire de remettre aux membres des photos d'une si haute résolution? Je ne pense pas qu'on aie besoin de photos de 8M px à moins de vouloir imprimer des posters 48" x 60"

Peut-etre que s'entenfre sur une résolution "suffisante" permettrait de mettre toutes les photos d'un événement sur un seul DVD qui serait inclus dans le prix d'inscription.

Ou sinon tu pourrais garder qq DVD avec toutes les photos "full resolution" et mettre des versions en plus basse résolution (genre 1.5 - 2 meg / photo en jpg) sur les DVD à distribuer.

Comme ça il rentre 2000+ photos par DVD avec une résolution suffisante pour 99.9% du monde et si qqn veut imprimer la photo de son auto "wall size" il n'aurait qu'à vous demander l'original.

Pour la resolution, je n'ai qu'une reponse "pourquoi pas le full 8MegaPixels?".. ca ne prends pas plus ou moins de temps a traiter et on donne le MAX pour que vous puissiez faire imprimer des grands formats comme bons vous sembles (au lieu de payer 70$ pour un 8x10, vous l'avez a 2$ chez Costco)

Et comme je suggeres de demander aux gens.. inclure 10$ ou 15$ dans les prix pour l'evenement, est-ce que ca ferait une difference sur le nombre de participants ? Personellement, si je payais 500$ pour un evenement, je paierais avec plaisir un 15$ d'extra pour avoir les photos de la journee.. surtout quand je vois la qualitee/quantitee de photos que Jean-Sebastien, Stephane, Eric, etc.. font

[5 Type]

Alex, you're totally right. This is the reason why, we would like to have the fee (of half our regular price) added to the subscription of everyone.

[mox]

no, my suggestion is to make the DVD included with the event price and every participant gets one. Like Benoit said, 2 day event : 10$. 3-day event : 15$

If they reduce pictures to 2 meg compressed in JPEG format (which is plenty for a 8 x 10 print), they could fit 2200 pictures per DVD

I don't really mind burning 2 DVD per participant.. DVDs cost 20c.. the problem is that the participants don't want to see only their car on the track. They would like to have all the pictures of the event (wich I think is a good idea)

[blacksheep]

Pour la resolution, je n'ai qu'une reponse "pourquoi pas le full 8MegaPixels"Parce qu'a pleine résolution tu ne peux pas mettre TOUTES les photos sur un seul DVD pour en inclure une copie à tous les participants

un DVD coute 0.20 mais ça prends combien de temps à graver? et ça va prendre combien de temps à "browser" pour faire le tour de toutes les photos? Ouvrir une seule photo 8mp à partir d'un DVD ça prends cinq à dix secondes ... maintenant multiplie 10 secondes par 1,500 ou 2,000 photos t'es mieux d'avoir une journée complète mise de coté pour faire le tour

[mox]

Parce qu'a pleine résolution tu ne peux pas mettre TOUTES les photos sur un seul DVD pour en inclure une copie à tous les participants

un DVD coute 0.20 mais ça prends combien de temps à graver? et ça va prendre combien de temps à "browser" pour faire le tour de toutes les photos? Ouvrir une seule photo 8mp à partir d'un DVD ça prends une dixaine de secondes ... maintenant multiplie par 2,000

ouais, mais comme je dis.. Ca ne me derange pas de donner 2 DVD a chaque participants pour qu'ils aient TOUTES les photos en pleine resolution.. c'est 20c de plus un DVD..

pour le temps de graver / temps a ouvrir, tu as raison.. personellement, je suis pret a prendre le temps pour les graver.. le temps pour les ouvrir c'est une autre histoire et depends de chacun..

Advenant une demande pour des photos en moins grande resolution, je suis ok pour le faire, mais au premier evenement de l'ete dernier, j'ai donne les CDs avec des photos en 1024x768 et je me suis fait critiquer que les photos etaient trop petites..

Il faudrait demander aux participants ce qu'ils veulent exactement ou, au pire, offrir le choix entre 2 DVD full size ou 1 DVD resized..

[Karim E36]

Moi je dis 2 DVD (toutes les photos, full size) pour chaque participant. On ajoute 10 ou 15$ par evenement.