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yield
12-20-2005, 08:22 AM
What requirements my helmet for next season need to meet for the next season... There is a lot to sell on clubprotegequebec.com theses times for cheap prices... like 50 $ box....

Lee
12-20-2005, 08:32 AM
Snell2000 is a minimum requirement for the 2006 season. SA or M (car or motorcycle helmets). We will accept a first time student with a SNELL95 or DOT helmet. This is possible only once though.

Emre
12-20-2005, 10:30 AM
What requirements my helmet for next season need to meet for the next season... There is a lot to sell on clubprotegequebec.com theses times for cheap prices... like 50 $ box....Many clubs will NOT allow you to use an M rated helmet at all. So you might be limited unless you buy an SA helmet. Also, just about every chapter will NOT allow 95 helmets. As of next summer, 2000 is the minimum.

Now that Snell SA-2005's are on the market, people are selling SA-2000's at VERY low prices. You can buy a Pyrotect (made by Bell) or a G-Force (sold through Racer Wholesale) for around $200 USD.

Emre

Flying beaver
01-13-2006, 10:06 PM
How about open face vs full face?

After many years with a snug fit full face for motorcycling (and yelling to others like Dart Vader) i was thinking about going open face this time. It also help (open face) for myself as I have to wear prescription glasses.

Lee
01-13-2006, 10:29 PM
Open face helmets are allowed. This is what I use, with glasses.

bmwqc
01-14-2006, 12:06 AM
How about open face vs full face?

After many years with a snug fit full face for motorcycling (and yelling to others like Dart Vader) i was thinking about going open face this time. It also help (open face) for myself as I have to wear prescription glasses.

There are some full face helmets with extra large openings for drivers
wearing eyeglasses (e.g. Bell M2 & M2 Pro)

Emre
01-14-2006, 11:54 AM
How about open face vs full face?

After many years with a snug fit full face for motorcycling (and yelling to others like Dart Vader) i was thinking about going open face this time. It also help (open face) for myself as I have to wear prescription glasses.If you have an airbag in your car...you might want to reconsider going with an open-face helmet. As Henry points out, there are some closed-face helmets with extra large eyeports that are meant to be used with glasses.

Emre

blacksheep
01-14-2006, 12:50 PM
well there's some discussion on that idea, some believe (and I agree) that the exagerated chin piece of a full-face helmet could force the neck into an unnatural angle when it contacts the airbag. And you don't need the chin protection since the only thing your face is supposed to contact is the airbag itself.

Personally I prefer an open-face helmet since my car has an airbag, but if I ever remove the airbags I'll go with a full-face for more impact protection

bmwqc
01-14-2006, 01:24 PM
well there's some discussion on that idea, some believe (and I agree) that the exagerated chin piece of a full-face helmet could force the neck into an unnatural angle when it contacts the airbag. And you don't need the chin protection since the only thing your face is supposed to contact is the airbag itself.

Personally I prefer an open-face helmet since my car has an airbag, but if I ever remove the airbags I'll go with a full-face for more impact protection

I would think that "exagerated chin piece" refers to the type
that protrudes prominently, like a typical motocross helmet, speedway models with that extra lower lip, or the bandit models with the protruding nose piece. The typical SA helmet (without the bells and whistles) has a smooth curved chin piece designed to spread the force of impact evenly. I don't see how this could compromise head safety when driving with an airbag equipped wheel.

Lee
01-14-2006, 01:48 PM
I believe that drivers with no racing harnesses should wear a full-face helmets for better protection. If the driver is kept in place with a 5 or 6 point racing harness, then there is no reason for his face to crash on the steering wheel, hence I feel there is no need for a full face helmet. Using an open face helmet is great as it allows much fresher air to bring oxygen to your brains, which in return allows the driver to have better judgement.

Nano
01-14-2006, 04:03 PM
with modern cars, a full face helmet is a bit overkill... and might actually be more of a liability than a true guarantee of safety. Airbags, seat belt tensioners, collapsing steering wheels, etc will make sure your face doesn't come into contact with anything. In a crash, you are most likely to hit your head against sidewindows and b-pillars, and that is where you want to be protected. Also, the most critically fragile part of the skull is the back of the head, not the front.

considering cars without harnesses, my 2cents:

if you have a more modern car with airbags, go with an open face helmet that is as light as possibe.

if you have an older car without airbags, go with a full face helmet.

Emre
01-14-2006, 04:23 PM
if you have a more modern car with airbags, go with an open face helmet that is as light as possibe.Just remember that we drive with windows down. I've personally been hit in the face with a small stone at Mosport when the car in front of me hit some dirt. I was thankful to be wearing a closed face helmet with face shield lowered at the time.

Emre

Nano
01-14-2006, 05:02 PM
Just remember that we drive with windows down. I've personally been hit in the face with a small stone at Mosport when the car in front of me hit some dirt. I was thankful to be wearing a closed face helmet with face shield lowered at the time.

Emre

Nasty :(

well... that makes it one more reason to drive with windows up :p

JK

Lee
01-14-2006, 05:16 PM
Windows up means that if a driver crashes and doors are stuck, then the flaggers who are usually the first to reach the accident, will not be able to pull you out of a burning car as fast as possible. This is why racing sanctionning bodies require windows down, and a net to keep arms in the car.

blacksheep
01-14-2006, 05:55 PM
if a crash is violent enough to jam the doors, the windows will usually be broken already

don't ask me why I know this

Lee
01-14-2006, 06:10 PM
Some cars are so cheaply made that shell rigidity is not their best asset. It is easy to bend a door frame why still leaving the door itself untouched. Move the A pillar to the back by 1/2", and the door latch will be stuck on the B pillar. The door will still have an intact window, rendering the removal of the driver im possible or slower at best.