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Lee
12-12-2005, 09:39 PM
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So, even though it is not official yet, here is a preview of things to come in order to wet your appetite. Anyone interested in helping is more than welcome. Suggestions accepted.

Mid to end of May - Dates to be confirmed (Sat-Sun)
SpringFling III (or is it Sanair IV?) in Sanair - two days - two tracks - DE and Show&Shine
Event chairs: Henry for DE? Antoine for S&S?

Formula One weekend in June - Low key Show & Shine
Bimmernight II - Perhaps on upper section of Peel Street, between de Maisonneuve and Sherbrooke.
I will start the process with City of Montreal - We need a SERIOUS event organizer. A sponsor can have a great deal with such a high visibilty.

Mid to End of June - Date to be confirmed
SummerDrift III in Mecaglisse - one day
Event chair: Karin? (you did such a great job last year)

July 7-8-9 (Fri-Sat-Sun)
BMW Fest East
Le Circuit Mt-Tremblant. 3 day driver school - no race - lower fee
Event co-chair: ????

August 11-12-13 (Fri-Sat-Sun)
Bimmers Across the Border VIII
Le Circuit Mt-Tremblant Club Race and Driver school
Event co-chair: Henry?

Let's not expect any event at Calabogie for 2006

bmwqc
12-12-2005, 10:02 PM
Mmmm........ that picture looks familiar! I think I took it with the old "vintage" Kodak digital.

Lee, the proposed schedule looks exciting. Now if we can line up the volunteers and get the ball rolling, 2006 will look mighty good.

snowmanmtl
12-12-2005, 10:16 PM
Are you planning on doing half-track with NER on the 12th of July?
www.porschenet.com/activity.html
I think the fellow in the picture had a little uhmm accident?

Lee
12-12-2005, 10:35 PM
Are you planning on doing half-track with NER on the 12th of July?
www.porschenet.com/activity.html (http://www.porschenet.com/activity.html)
I think the fellow in the picture had a little uhmm accident?

I have corrected the dates to July 7-8-9. Those days were supposed to be "Sommet des Légendes" but because it conflicts with 24 hours of Le Mans, it has been rescheduled and we got the dates.

As for my friend's "incident", it is nothing more than water (or beer) spills from the table. But I agree, the stain is misleading...

Lee
12-12-2005, 10:40 PM
Mmmm........ that picture looks familiar! I think I took it with the old "vintage" Kodak digital.

Lee, the proposed schedule looks exciting. Now if we can line up the volunteers and get the ball rolling, 2006 will look mighty good.

I don't believe in doing big things at the last minute. Great events require time to prepare. More people to help and less stress. I also believe in keeping everyone in the loop. This way, everyone feels concerned and it makes doing things way easier.

Emre
12-12-2005, 10:53 PM
Thanks Lee. Just so everyone is in the loop...we're just going over our finances to make sure that there's enough money to pull off a 2-day SpringFling III at Sanair plus a 1-day SummerDrift III at Mecaglisse in addition to the considerable expense attached to co-hosting TWO 3-day weekends at Tremblant! So far, things look good, but we'll need the treasurer to chime in (and also to confirm dates) before we can make the final announcements.

But, as Lee says...we welcome interested people to step up as event chairs or co-chairs. Of course, Lee and I (as well as the other directors) will totally support and help anyone who volunteers to take on the job. You will NOT be thrown into the water without a life vest! We'll support you all the way.

Emre

Lee
12-12-2005, 11:07 PM
When I attend an event hosted by Boston or White Mountain chapters, I am always surprised by the huge number of volunteers who, sometimes, come only to help and not to drive. This is obviously the result of years of making members feel welcome, and making them feel as an important part of the family. Obviously, the club is your club, and it will be what you make of it. Having two "smaller" events such as SpringFling and SummerDrift, is ideal to practice. Those who want to help do registration, tech inspection or simply want to know how to organize events, please, do not be shy. As they say in jail: "It hurts only the first time, then you get to enjoy it after that"...

snowmanmtl
12-12-2005, 11:09 PM
Two NER and two BMW events within 5 weeks?

Lee
12-12-2005, 11:12 PM
Two NER and two BMW events within 5 weeks?

As long as they are not on the same days... There will be plenty of driving for everyone. Summer is short. :D:D:D

snowmanmtl
12-12-2005, 11:20 PM
O.K., but for those that don't get the "instructor discount" or have jobs or families, it might be a bit too much for a 5 week period. All events except for Bab -8 usually have a tough time filling all available spots. Would a June date not be in order.
Tell your friend to dry his hands on his pants next time. It helps distract from the incident.

blacksheep
12-12-2005, 11:30 PM
O.K., but for those that don't get the "instructor discount" or have jobs or families, it might be a bit too much for a 5 week period.Said the man with a GT3 track toy


Would a June date not be in order.Bob's?


Tell your friend to dry his hands on his pants next time. It helps distract from the incident.sounds like that's spoken from experience :D


As they say in jail: "It hurts only the first time, then you get to enjoy it after that"...I hope that's not spoken from experience LOL

Emre
12-12-2005, 11:33 PM
O.K., but for those that don't get the "instructor discount" or have jobs or families, it might be a bit too much for a 5 week period.We can't really worry too much about what other clubs are doing. Our mandate is to come up with a calendar that serves BMW Club of Quebec members. As long as we're not in direct conflict with another local club, we will proceed. Besides, the local Porsche club doesn't even allow our members to attend (though we welcome them at our events) and many novice and intermediate drivers are uncomfortable with how the NER runs their events. So, there's far less cross-over than you might expect. Practically none, actually!

As it stands, we are planning one Sanair weekend in May, one Mecaglisse weekend in June, one 3-day Tremblant weekend in July, and another 3-day Tremblant weekend in August. That's 4 weekend events at 3 different tracks over the course of 4 months. Hardly excessive!


All events except for Bab -8 usually have a tough time filling all available spots. Would a June date not be in order.Actually, we have not had any difficulty filling any of our schools. In fact, they tend to sell out rather quickly. The limiting factor for our Tremblant weekends is how many people we can reasonably fit onto the track. We routinely get over 100 applicants for Tremblant weekend events. As for the smaller events, the limiting factor is the number of instructors that commit and, in the case of Mecaglisse, the very small number of cars we can allow per group (due to the paucity of suitable passing zones).

Emre

Lee
12-12-2005, 11:40 PM
O.K., but for those that don't get the "instructor discount" or have jobs or families, it might be a bit too much for a 5 week period. All events except for Bab -8 usually have a tough time filling all available spots. Would a June date not be in order.
Tell your friend to dry his hands on his pants next time. It helps distract from the incident.

I understand it makes a lot of events in small timeframe. But only NER's events are tough to book and almost garanteed to not break even. Even Montreal's own Rennsport members do not sign up to NER's events. Or only very few. If we can help NER, we will. BAB8 and BMW Fest East will sell out very quickly.

For BMW Fest East, because it is hosted by 4 BMW Club chapters, every chapter will have quotas. Trillium, Ottawa and Quebec will allow 30 members each, and Nova Scotia will allow 10. For perhaps a two week period, only members from those chapters will be allowed to register. After two weeks, a fifth "open" quota will be made available for everyone who hasn't registered yet. It will not be difficult to register 100 students. Those who will not make it will have the opportunity to register to NER's events. Summers are short and there is not much we can do about that.

snowmanmtl
12-12-2005, 11:47 PM
Hey, I'm not complaining, I just think it's a lot of events for the period. I'm at the track all summer and will drive with any group . And No, you can't have Bob's day. And yes I do wipe my hands on my pants, no choice at Tremblant, Vince won't put paper towels in the Men's room. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

blacksheep
12-12-2005, 11:55 PM
And No, you can't have Bob's day.That's not what I suggested. What I meant is that, in my mind, June + Tremblant = Bob's


Vince won't put paper towels in the Men's room. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.LMAO! So true. I think they put 10 towels per day ... gotta be fast!

Lee
12-13-2005, 12:03 AM
That's not what I suggested. What I meant is that, in my mind, June + Tremblant = Bob's

LMAO! So true. I think they put 10 towels per day ... gotta be fast!

Have you heard of the $1000 paper rolls? A few years ago, after only a few hours on Friday morning, participants started complaining that there was no more toilet paper. So, we genuinely asked our friend Vince to take care of things. He said that it cost $1000 to fix the problem. Which was his way to let us know that if we were not happy with it, we only had to fix it ourself.

BTW Eric, I am uploading on your ftp a very nice movie which is the best passing manoeuvres of the F1 history. Great movie with Italian narration. You even see a flagger in Monaco starting a fight with a driver... Lots of footage of Gilles "crazy driver" Villeneuve. High quality too.

snowmanmtl
12-13-2005, 12:04 AM
10/ day , where did you get that No. from. He didn't put one in there the whole summer.

snowmanmtl
12-13-2005, 12:07 AM
http://media.putfile.com/Os--velhos--tempos--da--F1
Best video

Lee
12-13-2005, 11:14 AM
For Sanair in May. I just called the manager and have a few dates.

We can book:

Sat. 13th and Sun. 14th

or

Sat. 20th and Sun. 21st

Emre, what do we do? Henry, if you want to be event chair, what do you think about those dates?

Karin
12-13-2005, 03:16 PM
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Mid to End of June - Date to be confirmed
SummerDrift III in Mecaglisse - one day
Event chair: Karin? (you did such a great job last year)


Well thank you Lee! I happily accept to organize another event there. I'll let everyone know the dates so you can plan your summer accordingly.

Lee
12-13-2005, 03:39 PM
So, Henry will be hosting SpringFling_3 and Karin will be hosting Summerdrift_3 (respectively held in Sanair and Mecaglisse). Each event will require one or two persons to take care of the BBQ dinner. Two or three persons are required to do tech inspection. One or two persons are also required for on-site registration. If you are interested in giving a hand, contact them. It's fun.

Emre
12-13-2005, 03:44 PM
So, Henry will be hosting SpringFling_3 and Karin will be hosting Summerdrift_3 (respectively held in Sanair and Mecaglisse).Also, Andre (b00b00) has expressed interest in co-chairing and/or chairing one or both of these events. Why don't we give everyone a chance to volunteer before we make a final announcement?

Emre

Karin
12-13-2005, 03:47 PM
If anyone objects my organizing any events, I'm open to co-organizing.

Emre
12-13-2005, 03:49 PM
If anyone objects my organizing any events, I'm open to co-organizing.No one objects! We'd love to have you do SummerDrift (as you did last year). I was talking about Sanair. Henry is already going to be busy as co-chair of BAB-8. Since Andre showed interest in taking charge of SpringFling at Sanair, I think we might want to give him a shot at it.

Emre

Lee
12-13-2005, 03:52 PM
Also, Andre (b00b00) has expressed interest in co-chairing and/or chairing one or both of these events. Why don't we give everyone a chance to volunteer before we make a final announcement?

Emre

This is an excellent idea. I suggest that Andre works with either Henry or Karin (or both) in order to learn how things go. Both Henry and Karin have experience and can transmit what they know. Taking full charge of an event is perhaps a steep learning process all at once.

blacksheep
12-13-2005, 06:16 PM
I can probably help out with Mecaglisse

Lee
12-13-2005, 07:17 PM
I can probably help out with Mecaglisse

Great, so perhaps you can contact Karin and let her know what task you would be willing to help with. She's the boss.

Karin
12-13-2005, 07:50 PM
Great, so perhaps you can contact Karin and let her know what task you would be willing to help with. She's the boss.
Perfect! I've contacted Mecaglisse and they're just working on their schedule for the summer. June 18th is tentatively taken by a Superbike race but we can have June 11th. I asked to reserve (tentatively) until I got the OK from everyone. Franck will let me know as soon as he works it out with the BikerBoyz, but we got one of those weekends.
So, anyone who wants to come on board, welcome!!!
Karin

Emre
12-13-2005, 07:55 PM
June 18th is tentatively taken by a Superbike race but we can have June 11th.When is GP weekend?

Emre

Lee
12-13-2005, 07:55 PM
Superbike? I think you meant Super Motard. Right? June 11th is great, so perhaps I should soon book Sanair for May 13th and 14th then. That will leave 4 weeks in-between both events. And that will leave some time for the June 25th Bimmernight II on (probably) Peel Street.

Lee
12-13-2005, 07:56 PM
When is GP weekend?

Emre

F1 GP is last weekend of June.

Karin
12-13-2005, 07:57 PM
When is GP weekend?

Emre
GP weekend is (still tentatively) on June 25. Too late to do Mecaglisse after that. So we won't be able to use it as advertising. But hey! I've already recruited 2 newbies :D

Emre
12-13-2005, 07:57 PM
June 11th is great, so perhaps I should soon book Sanair for May 13th and 14th then. That will leave 4 weeks in-between both events.Actually, June 11th is perfect now that I think about it. The next event would be July 7-8-9 at Tremblant. We wouldn't want SummerDrift III to be too close to the BMW Fest Est weekend.

Emre

Lee
12-13-2005, 07:59 PM
One event per month is not bad for a small club like ours.

Karin
12-13-2005, 08:02 PM
One event per month is not bad for a small club like ours.

Done then! I'll ask Mecaglisse to give us June 11. This is gonna be fun!!! :D

bmwqc
12-14-2005, 12:09 AM
This is an excellent idea. I suggest that Andre works with either Henry or Karin (or both) in order to learn how things go. Both Henry and Karin have experience and can transmit what they know. Taking full charge of an event is perhaps a steep learning process all at once.

If Andre wishes to come on board, I would be happy to work with him

Andre
12-14-2005, 08:41 AM
Sounds good Henry,
Where do I start?

-andré-

yield
12-20-2005, 09:20 AM
let me know if any help is needed for Mecaglisse....

SpeedTT
12-20-2005, 10:11 AM
Puisqu'il est question de plusieurs evements raprochés qui necessite la présence de plusieurs instructeurs a-t-on en tête d'utiliser le système qu'emploi PCA NER. Ainsi il est question de "student" et de "signed off". Pour ces derniers il est question d'une réduction tarifaire de 40$ US... mais qui dégage des instructeurs pour les personnes qui en ont besoin. C'est donc une façon de faire rentrer un bon nombre de pilote avec un bassin d'instructeur plus limités.:rolleyes:

Lee
12-20-2005, 03:05 PM
Puisqu'il est question de plusieurs evements raprochés qui necessite la présence de plusieurs instructeurs a-t-on en tête d'utiliser le système qu'emploi PCA NER. Ainsi il est question de "student" et de "signed off". Pour ces derniers il est question d'une réduction tarifaire de 40$ US... mais qui dégage des instructeurs pour les personnes qui en ont besoin. C'est donc une façon de faire rentrer un bon nombre de pilote avec un bassin d'instructeur plus limités.:rolleyes:

The registration fees paid by students cover expenses such as track, ambulance, flaggers, insurance, and other small expenses. Instructors are free and do not get paid. So, having an instructor or being signed-off has not impact on registration fee.

We do not intend to lower fees for signed-off students as they use the same resources as other drivers. Quite the opposite, perhaps we should start charging more to advanced drivers as they make more lapses in one day...;)

bmwqc
12-20-2005, 04:27 PM
Sounds good Henry,
Where do I start?

-andré-

I will keep you posted.