Hyundai Genesis Coupe with track pack

[Gregster]

Here is the new Genesis Coupe with the track pack
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/DSC_8341.JPG

No more pics.. I can't read Korean:(
woot!
http://static.autoblog.nl/images/wp2008/hyundai_genesis_coupe_drift.jpg


Hyundai will be offering an Rspec model around my birthday.. end of November. So far it's looking like this will be the new daily driver.... Base pricing of the 2.0T model will be 24 995 CDN, so I figure around another 1500$ for the track pack or 2000$ for the Rspec.

TrackPack


19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch (340 mm) ventilated front rotors, 42 mm (1.7 in) four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25 mm (1.0 in) front stabilizer bar, 22 mm (0.9 in) rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
Torsen-type limited-slip differential
Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
Aluminum pedals
Aero windshield wipers
Rear spoiler
Xenon HID headlamps
Fog lamps
Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
Navigation system (mid-year availability)
Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track


Rspec


2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg-US (7.8 L/100 km; 36 mpg-imp) EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph (220 km/h)
6-speed manual transmission
Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch (340 mm) ventilated front rotors, 42 mm (1.7 in) four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25 mm (1.0 in) front stabilizer bar, 22 mm (0.9 in) rear stabilizer bar, strut brace)
Torsen-type limited-slip differential
Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
Tire Pressure Monitoring System
Front, side, side air curtain air bags
Active front head restraints
Driver’s lumbar support
Air conditioning
Keyless entry system
Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
Projector beam headlamps
Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec




GT30R turbo with 1000cc injectors, new fuel pump with exhaust. Should be good for 400hp.

[Emre]

Yes, but is it faster than a ZR-1?

;) :p

[Gregster]

No, nothing is quicker then a ZR-1.

[johnmdanskin]

$2000 for the track pack. That was a joke, right? The xenon headlights cost almost that much, or the brakes, or the wheels, or...

[Gregster]

I am just posting stuff found on the Hyundai Forums so far the info has been correct. Official option prices are coming out soon.

[bmwqc]

If this new coupe is based on the Genesis platform, it must be a rather large (and heavy) car.




I am just posting stuff found on the Hyundai Forums so far the info has been correct. Official option prices are coming out soon.

[Gregster]

3400lbs for the V6 model and 3300 for the 4cyl. Yes it shares the same basic chassis as the Genesis Sedan.


Now if my ricer math is correct, with that weight and HP it will run at 15.0&95... until someone installs a boost controller. :D:D

[sebdavid]

Are both engines available with both Track and RSpec versions? Seems like the RSpec is only available with the 2.0T... ??

[PassatVR6]

$2000 for the track pack. That was a joke, right? The xenon headlights cost almost that much, or the brakes, or the wheels, or...

Have you seen what $800 buys you at mercedes...

17" multi-spoke alloy wheels
All-season performance tires
Sport suspension
AMG front and rear aprons
AMG side skirts
Mercedes-Benz Star in grille
Upgraded brake calipers
3-spoke sport steering wheel
Black Bird's Eye Maple wood trim
Aluminium studded pedals

[Silverblades181]

Bridgestone Potenza RE050A are runflat tires if I'm not mistaken. 4 tires will cost more then the whole package.

[bmwqc]

Bridgestone Potenza RE050A are runflat tires if I'm not mistaken. 4 tires will cost more then the whole package.

The RE50A is available in both regular and RFT.

[Gregster]

It comes with non runflat versions..

[Gregster]

Track Pack will be known at the Genesis Coupe GT. It will be around 30k or so I am told.

However Hyundai now has a factory team in CCTCC or whatever the series is called. They are also forming a Koni Challenge team. What does this mean? Simple.. Fancy racing parts...

[Darth G-F]

I'm not sold on the looks at all...

HOWEVER, this is absolutely amazing from Hyundai to offer a rwd car in that price range WITH a turbo.

I hope this car will be a homerun! Manufacturers need to start offering more affordable rwd sports coupe.

[hudonjea]

The last RWD car they offered was the Hyundai Pony?

[kenneth]

That would be the tiburon no?

[bmwqc]

That would be the tiburon no?


The Tiburon is front wheel drive

[kenneth]

The Tiburon is front wheel drive

Ah well, that's how much I know about Hyundais :D

[sebdavid]

Looks like the R Spec will actually be less expensive than the Track model.


When the colors of your new turbocharged rear-wheel-drive sport coupe are named after international racing circuits, you’d better have the performance and confidence to back it up. Now, Hyundai is upping the ante by announcing an R-Spec version of the all-new 2010 Genesis Coupe, designed to appeal to true enthusiasts who want a low starting price and the ability to tune their car to their own specifications. R-Spec will be available as a mid-2010 model year introduction.

R-Spec provides genuine track-readiness in an affordable model. The R-Spec adds core performance equipment to the most affordable 2.0T model, such as: Track-tuned suspension, 19-inch gunmetal-finish alloy wheels with performance summer tires, Brembo® braking system, Torsen limited-slip differential, and R-Spec badging. To further reduce cost and weight, it also eliminates some non-essential convenience equipment such as: Bluetooth®, automatic headlights, cruise control, trip computer, chrome interior accents and steering wheel audio controls. The Genesis Coupe R-Spec will be priced at $23,750 and $3,000 (USD) less than the 2.0T Track model, leaving tuners with extra cash for their own choice of aftermarket performance upgrades. Appropriately, the R-Spec will be available in three performance oriented exteriors colors: Karussell White, Bathurst Black and Tsukuba Red.

After seeing the commercial, looking at the specs, I'm really getting excited about this car. Apart from the luxury part, which I don't care for, and the 19 inch wheels, which are way too big, it's starting to really look like a good car to get on a lease and heavily use on track without worrying about anything breaking or wearing prematurely.

I'm looking forward to the reviews.

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/abouthyundai/news/2009_02_11_1/2009_02_11_1.aspx
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/shoppingtools/byo/model.aspx

/EDIT/
GT doesn't mean the same in the USA as here. It looks like the GT here is the equivalent to the Track there.

USA-----CANADA
GT-------Premium
Track----GT
http://biz.yahoo.com/cnw/090211/hyundai_genesis_coupe.html?.v=1

[Silverblades181]

Looks like the R Spec will actually be less expensive than the Track model.



After seeing the commercial, looking at the specs, I'm really getting excited about this car. Apart from the luxury part, which I don't care for, and the 19 inch wheels, which are way too big, it's starting to really look like a good car to get on a lease and heavily use on track without worrying about anything breaking or wearing prematurely.

I'm looking forward to the reviews.

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/abouthyundai/news/2009_02_11_1/2009_02_11_1.aspx
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/shoppingtools/byo/model.aspx

/EDIT/
GT doesn't mean the same in the USA as here. It looks like the GT here is the equivalent to the Track there.

USA-----CANADA
GT-------Premium
Track----GT
http://biz.yahoo.com/cnw/090211/hyundai_genesis_coupe.html?.v=1

Why would nothing break or wear prematurely compared to your E36 M3? All I see is prices and option lists...nothing about reliability.

[PassatVR6]

Why would nothing break or wear prematurely compared to your E36 M3? All I see is prices and option lists...nothing about reliability.

1) new car, things tend to break less
2) warranty

[sebdavid]

Yeah, I wouldn't keep that car much past its warranty.

And maybe people would give me less dirty looks when driving around town and I would get less key scratches on my car if I drove a Hyundai. :D

[Gregster]

Yeah, I wouldn't keep that car much past its warranty.

And maybe people would give me less dirty looks when driving around town and I would get less key scratches on my car if I drove a Hyundai. :D

From my experiences when driving a Hyundai you always get bad parking spots but blend in with the flow of traffic so no tickets. Good on gas as well!

Driving an M3 you always get a parking spot close to the front doors at the mall etc, people are always trying to race you and you are always at the gas station.

All documented facts!

[bmwqc]

From my experiences when driving a Hyundai you always get bad parking spots but blend in with the flow of traffic so no tickets. Good on gas as well!


Good on gas maybe for your Hyundai. I am sure the Genesis Coupe will be much thirstier than your Accent

[blacksheep]

turbo cars are always tragic on gas, especially when they're modified and driven hard

at high boost pressures they even inject extra fuel to cool down the intake charge and help prevent detonation

[PassatVR6]

turbo cars are always tragic on gas, especially when they're modified and driven hard

at high boost pressures they even inject extra fuel to cool down the intake charge and help prevent detonation


There are plenty of turbo cars that get good gas consumption

[blacksheep]

... until you lay into the throttle

[Gregster]

Bah any car is like that.. I once owned this V6 powered Protege.. it would burn around 30$ of gas for every 150kms of driving. One night just driving around the West Island I burnt that exact amount. Then again I was always on the gas and the car shot flames out the back...

PassatVR6 remembers that :p

[sebdavid]

Yeah. If you want power, you'll usually get high gas consumption. Only way to avoid that is through light weight, and that's not the direction the market is generally taking.

One day I will have an Elise or Caterham... one day.

[Gregster]

One day I will have an Elise or Caterham... one day.

Those are cool and all but I prefer to have cars with real doors.

[bmwqc]

Yeah. If you want power, you'll usually get high gas consumption. Only way to avoid that is through light weight, and that's not the direction the market is generally taking.


The newer cars are saddled down with a lot of gadgetry and safety equipment but there really is no reason why they should be so bloated. Even if you were to remove all that stuff, the average car today is still significantly heavier than similar cars of yesteryear. Of course, cars have also grown with each successive generation.

[Gregster]

The newer cars are saddled down with a lot of gadgetry and safety equipment but there really is no reason why they should be so bloated. Even if you were to remove all that stuff, the average car today is still significantly heavier than similar cars of yesteryear. Of course, cars have also grown with each successive generation.

The average seat these days weighs around 170lbs... sometimes more depending on what it has in it.

Cars were also built like crap in yesteryear and were fit for the scrap yard at 75 000kms.

[Emre]

One day I will have an Elise or Caterham... one day.Sitting in a Caterham, one of your arms is outside the car. And the rest of your body is "protected" by a 1/16" thick sheet of aluminum. And the rollbar doesn't clear the top of your helmet.

[Darth G-F]

Those are cool and all but I prefer to have cars with real doors.

:confused:
Didn't know my Elise doesn't have real doors... :p

I take it you talk about Caterhams... Yeah the doors are made of vinyl. Cool stuff!

I owned a Caterham Hayabusa for two years before I bought my Elise. The Caterham is an awesome car! VERY fun to drive. My Elise feels like a boat compared to it. But the Elise is way more practical! :D

[sebdavid]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=142686
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826#5

Verdict: it's a good competitor to the G37, offering more for the money, but it's softer than the 350Z and the "Track" package's name is a bit exaggerated. The diff is great but there's a "drivetrain protection feature" that seems to be annoying when doing full-bore upshifts.

No doubt that with a few suspension tweaks and maybe a bit more power for the 2.0T, it will be a great everyday and track car... except of course for the depreciation which should be quite harsh, at least for the first few years.

[Silverblades181]

The average seat these days weighs around 170lbs... sometimes more depending on what it has in it.

Cars were also built like crap in yesteryear and were fit for the scrap yard at 75 000kms.

Lol american cars maybe. Old japanese cars...okay only the engine remains as all the rest is gone and rusted away but still work. German cars, my mom's old 1.8l jetta survived 400 000km and constant overrevs and power shifts (and power downshifts...make sure you wear your seat belt haha) on my part. :D I tried to kill it but it just wouldn't die!!

As for the weight, the manufacturers go to great lenghts to lower weight, and I'm sorry but cars of yesteryear were freaking HEAVY! I once tried to carry a Chevy Caprice door by myself...good luck lifting it off the ground.

New bmws have all aluminum suspension components like subframes to lower weight, plastics have come a long way and are used EVERYWHERE. The front fenders on the E70 X5 are made of molded plastic. New magnisium and aluminum engine head and blocks. Believe me they try to take as much weight off.

But nowadays customers want confort and no noise in the car. There is a lot of sound deadning and that weights a lot. Like Greg said, the seats are also very heavy because of all the electric motors for the adjustments. 7 series seat have like 8 different adjustments. Theres electric motors everywhere so that everything can be adjusted by the flick of a switch.

Remember, the customers asks and the manufacturers make it. They want to sell cars, and maximum performance and confort must be balanced.

My 2 cents..

[Gregster]

People also want 18 or 19 inch wheels that weigh a ton.

I see more older Japanese cars on the road then older German cars... Say what you want, the Europeans never made a good electrical system. The Germans are better then the English though...

For cars being fit for the scrap yard at 75 000kms that applied to all cars, around 20 to 30 years ago. Cars were built with no rust proofing, shitty paint finishes etc, they all rusted out to crap. Engines weren't that great either....

[bmwqc]

The first car I ever owned was a 73 Corolla. Bought new, the front fenders rusted through within 3 years and the engine required a top end job at 65000 miles. The car was basically washed up in 3 years. This experience left a sour taste in my mouth and I avoided buying another Japanese car for the next 30 years.




People also want 18 or 19 inch wheels that weigh a ton.

I see more older Japanese cars on the road then older German cars... Say what you want, the Europeans never made a good electrical system. The Germans are better then the English though...

For cars being fit for the scrap yard at 75 000kms that applied to all cars, around 20 to 30 years ago. Cars were built with no rust proofing, shitty paint finishes etc, they all rusted out to crap. Engines weren't that great either....

[Gregster]

I am starting to like this sound better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukoZt09SZ6w

Genesis coupe is cool and all but with tax a GT will be 35k.. that's too much for a Hyundai.

[sebdavid]

The Mustang GT has a great sound. But the handling is CRAP, it's a big huge car for no reason and it's sooooooft. My mom has one and I drove it extensively, granted it's a convertible but without major chassis work, I can't see how a Mustang would be in the same league as the cars we're talking about.

[Gregster]

The Mustang GT has a great sound. But the handling is CRAP, it's a big huge car for no reason and it's sooooooft. My mom has one and I drove it extensively, granted it's a convertible but without major chassis work, I can't see how a Mustang would be in the same league as the cars we're talking about.

SN95s weren't great but S197s handle ok. You just need a good set of shocks and springs to really help the car out.

[sebdavid]

Well I'm sure it'd be a LOT better with a better suspension. Still, the car feels so heavy and cumbersome, and (at least for the convertible) you can feel the chassis flex so much... bushings would probably help, and some chassis bracing, but that wouldn't solve the "manly" (read: rough) gearchange, the way too long gear ratios, and the numb steering (well maybe a little bit). An LSD would also be a must.

The GT500, I was astonished to learn, weighs almost 4,000 pounds! :eek:

Still, great sound though. Impossible to resist revving it up under an overpass or in a tunnel.

[Gregster]

Well I'm sure it'd be a LOT better with a better suspension. Still, the car feels so heavy and cumbersome, and (at least for the convertible) you can feel the chassis flex so much... bushings would probably help, and some chassis bracing, but that wouldn't solve the "manly" (read: rough) gearchange, the way too long gear ratios, and the numb steering (well maybe a little bit). An LSD would also be a must.

The GT500, I was astonished to learn, weighs almost 4,000 pounds! :eek:

Still, great sound though. Impossible to resist revving it up under an overpass or in a tunnel.

Mustang GTs come with an LSD.. Ford Tracloc 8.8 3.55 rear end.

Yes the Mustang isn't a perfect car that's why there is nearly endless aftermarket with it. I am sure the Genesis isn't a perfect car but after comparing them and doing the math, a used Mustang offers better bang for the buck. Put a set of 4.10s in the rear and those long gear ratios suddenly don't feel that long.

There is also the Pontiac GTO which offers great performance for the price.
http://autos.lespac.com/search/detail.php?PHPSESSID=0ba3e6123416711d1ce7f5b0facedd7e&infst=RK_8486528%3B&cp=26&region=&num_reg_ori=8&gr=12&majalerte=&a=8486528&o=%2Fsearch%2Findex.php&r=1651&liste_ville=&listcmp=&parindex=0&page=1&total=27&nbrpages=4&visite_recherche=&categorie_titre=[V%C3%A9hicules+-+Autos]&idcookie=d9b711aca1cf179f2c5da91402eecee7&zc=26&zg=12&priorite=&orderby=distance&mots=

I don't know what I want for a next car.. I've even considered the idea of a Mini Cooper S

[sebdavid]

Mustang GTs come with an LSD.. Ford Tracloc 8.8 3.55 rear end.

Really even on the convertible? I'll have to take your word for it, but I could swear on a wet road coming out of a corner the inside wheel started spinning and I wasn't able to get the long lazy drift I was aiming for... It did work quite well on some deserted highway off-ramps though. Hmm.


I don't know what I want for a next car.. I've even considered the idea of a Mini Cooper S

But that's unpossible, it's almost a BMW! :D

I guess if you're going to make serious mods, then many cars that would be out of contention start to appear interesting. I'm not very mechanically-inclined so I tend to compare stock vs. stock.

I'm leaning towards a zee for my next car (have to buy a winter beater first though), and I have nagging ideas about an S2000, which go away as soon as I drive a car on the road without the ample torque I'm used to.

[Gregster]

Really even on the convertible? I'll have to take your word for it, but I could swear on a wet road coming out of a corner the inside wheel started spinning and I wasn't able to get the long lazy drift I was aiming for... It did work quite well on some deserted highway off-ramps though. Hmm.



But that's unpossible, it's almost a BMW! :D

I guess if you're going to make serious mods, then many cars that would be out of contention start to appear interesting. I'm not very mechanically-inclined so I tend to compare stock vs. stock.

I'm leaning towards a zee for my next car (have to buy a winter beater first though), and I have nagging ideas about an S2000, which go away as soon as I drive a car on the road without the ample torque I'm used to.

Zs are cool cars. Not very well built and have a number of electrical issues once they get in the higher KMs but they aren't bad. I've seen a few that burn oil... but name me a Japanese car that doesn't.

I don't know about dropheads but I know 100% that coupes come with the famous 8.8 tracloc rear end.

[Andrei]

A friend of mine had a 2004 or 2003 Mustang GT convertible. It definitely had LSD. The numerous drop-clutch starts demonstrated that very well.