This could be great in an E36 :D

[Gregster]

I present the LS9 crate engine. Yours for just over 20k!
http://paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=248897

http://paceperformance.com/ProductImages/manufacturer/gm/images/19201990.gif


638 hp / 604 lbs torque!!!!!

[bmwqc]

Nice engine, but I bet it would upset that famed BMW weight distribution




I present the LS9 crate engine. Yours for just over 20k!
http://paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=248897

http://paceperformance.com/ProductImages/manufacturer/gm/images/19201990.gif


638 hp / 604 lbs torque!!!!!

[Nick_ll]

Isn't an LS1 lighter than an S52?
If that's the case, I can hardly see how a newer LS9 engine would weight more than that.

[bmwqc]

Isn't an LS1 lighter than an S52?
If that's the case, I can hardly see how a newer LS9 engine would weight more than that.

Don't know about the weight difference but there would be the added weight of the supercharger and plumbing, plus I suppose the LS9 would have to be matched to a relatively heavy gearbox.

Perhaps Gregster, our resident GM engine expert can share some light into that.

[Gregster]

Ill find out the weight of the engine later but I know the T56 trans weighs about 120lbs with the bell housing.

[Silverblades181]

It only has 1 throttle body...

[LagunaM3]

It only has 1 throttle body...

So does the E36's S52 engine. Of course, the S52 is 14 years old. :D

[Silverblades181]

So does the E36's S52 engine. Of course, the S52 is 14 years old. :D

You mean the M52B32. The real E36 M3 engine has 6 throttle bodies ;)

[bmwqc]

You mean the M52B32. The real E36 M3 engine has 6 throttle bodies ;)


Does it really make that much of a difference as far as performance is concerned?

[johnmdanskin]

Somehow after reading about the library I saw the thread title as "this could be great in a 36D". But that's just me.

The LS9 -is- a sexy motor.

I'm at the factory five build school in sunny metropolitan howell michigan today. We've pretty much got a roller after the first day. Nothing too scary yet except camber and toe adjustments for the independent rear suspension if you go that route. Measure camber and toe. Jack up the car, remove the wheels, detach the top A arm. Twiddle the length adjuster on each arm. Put it all back together, lower the car back down, measure again. Repeat. Ick. Almost worth figuring out all the geometry analytically, calculating the required adjustment so you get it right the first time, and just doing it once. Almost. Besides, it wouldn't be right the first time anyway.

There was a very neat discussion of how to adjust the front suspension geometry to eliminate or at least reduce bump steer. I know a lot more about suspension geometry than I was ever able to learn from books. The books will probably make a lot more sense now.

Am I Mr. Off topic or what?

I -love- your LS9. Would you mind if the LS9 and I went somewhere where we could be more private? There. Back on topic. Happy?

-john

[LagunaM3]

You mean the M52B32. The real E36 M3 engine has 6 throttle bodies ;)

Yeah, yeah, but we live in North America. Except for a few cars, all the E36 M3s here have engines w/ 1 throttle body.

[Hugo]

Hey Greg, when do you come to Tremblant with YOUR ZR1 and show us how good and fast it is.

[Silverblades181]

Does it really make that much of a difference as far as performance is concerned?

The engine needs air and fuel, plus a spark. One throttle body can only be so big, if you have 6 or 8 or 10 smaller throttle bodies the total surface is a lot bigger = more air coming in faster. Also, BMW engines with 1 throttle per cylinder place the throttle right next to engine head so the air doesn't have to go through the entire intake to get into the cylinder. Instead of a conventional intake those engines have a plenum which acts as a reserve for air.