A use for the LS2

[johnmdanskin]

I can't remember if emry loves the LS1 or the LS2, and the search function won't even try to look for such a short word so I can't tell.

Here is a decent use for the LS2 engine, in a package with a reasonable HP/weight ratio.

1000 pounds. 425 horsepower. Better than the mclaren f1.

http://www.bosshoss.com/images/BIKES_TRIKES/BHC3LS2/BHC3LS2_1.jpg

http://www.bosshoss.com/view_bike.asp?x=BHC3LS2&d=S

[Andrei]

Now that is a manly motorcycle.

Nobody would question the virility of the owner of such a hog.

[Gregster]

thats pretty pointless even by my high standards :p

[LagunaM3]

1000 pounds. 425 horsepower. Better than the mclaren f1.

Jeez. A 1000 lb bike? :confused: I guess that will match nicely with someone's Hummer H1. :D

I'll take a Desmo RR instead (better power-to-weight and weighs >600 lbs less).

[johnmdanskin]

Jeez. A 1000 lb bike? :confused: I guess that will match nicely with someone's Hummer H1. :D

I'll take a Desmo RR instead (better power-to-weight and weighs >600 lbs less).


There would be a problem if it didn't have reverse. There'd be a lot of Boss Hogs stuck facing down little inclines.

I was just looking at some jumbo goldwing that apparently weighs 800 pounds. The goldwing has a bed in back with an overhead mirror though. Now that's practical. I'll question the virility of the rider of any non-racing bike without a place to put a woman in back. (If the rider is a woman, and there isn't a place to put a woman in back, I still feel safe in questioning her virility.)

The goldwing has reverse too.

The desmo rr is cool, but I defy Pritpal to actually ride one from Boston to a reasonable twisty road without driveways. I used to live in a place where the desmo would have made sense (Yeehaw! Move Over Hans!), but no longer. I'm thinking of trading my Ducati ST3 for a Buell Ulysses XB12XT, which is basically the same bike with a more upright seating position and slightly larger luggage. This either means I'm getting old, I can't find nearby twisty roads, I'm making more concessions to my virile urge to bring my wife with me, or all three.

[LagunaM3]

The desmo rr is cool, but I defy Pritpal to actually ride one from Boston to a reasonable twisty road without driveways.

Riding a desmo on the street is like driving an Enzo on the street--yeah you can do it, but why? I'd load up the desmo in a van, drive 90 mins to NHMS, and let 'er rip.

Besides, with the drivers in MA, riding a mobike on the streets here is crazy. Might as well wear an "Organ Donor" name tag.

Having said that, give me a desmo, and I'll ride it all the way to Tremblant. :D

[johnmdanskin]

Riding a desmo on the street is like driving an Enzo on the street--yeah you can do it, but why? I'd load up the desmo in a van, drive 90 mins to NHMS, and let 'er rip.

Besides, with the drivers in MA, riding a mobike on the streets here is crazy. Might as well wear an "Organ Donor" name tag.

Having said that, give me a desmo, and I'll ride it all the way to Tremblant. :D

I've been discussing accident and injury rates at motorcycle DEs with Dave Spragg who does these a lot. Here is a quote:

Yeah… my group was 16 rider I think and we had one broken humorous, one collarbone, and a big swelled up hand along with 3 totaled bikes and one scratched up one. Then again those guys were all new track riders on what I call “fast fucking bikes” and were most likely pushing themselves too hard. I am not sure of the later as I wasn’t out there in that group.

So, 1/3 of the C group was injured and 1/3 of the C group bikes were totalled.

I did a motorcycle track event once when dinosaurs roamed the planet and McCain had just qualified for AARP and it was a complete blast. I'd -love- to track my bike. But I'm not up for the injury rate. I like being INSIDE the steel box, not wrapped around the steel projectile like a cushion.

I'd love to watch you drive the desmo around tremblant. I'd even be willing to help with the pre-emptive flowers to the hospital pool (you know someone will need them, you just don't know who).

Motorcycling with MA drivers is dangerous, but I've watched bikes on the track. I was instructing at a skills school event at NHMS in the parking lot next to turn 6 while bikes were on the track. The ambulance came to turn 6 at least 3 times in one day (I may have missed a few). The track is way more dangerous than even downtown mass after a sox game.

-j

[blacksheep]

IIRC LCMT just decided to ban all motorcycle track days

[Andrei]

The track is way more dangerous than even downtown mass after a sox game.


You are not going anywhere faster than 5 mph after a Sox game. Even if you tip the bike over you car run away from the masshole in the Suburban who is about to run you over.


IIRC LCMT just decided to ban all motorcycle track days

Hmm, more days for cars then, right? With the current financial implosion I don't see the Ferrari Driving Experience taking all those days.

[Gregster]

Hmm, more days for cars then, right? With the current financial implosion I don't see the Ferrari Driving Experience taking all those days.

Maybe they'll have to start up a Honda Fit Challenge or Yaris Cup series.

[LagunaM3]

Well, I completely disagree. :-) One of my best friends is a motorcycle racer (club racer, but he does have an AMA Pro card). I've gone up to NHIS plenty of times to watch races. For sure, the injury rate for bike track days is on a totally different plane than for car track days (not to mention race days). But it's not like injuries are inevitable. Usually it's guys who bring bikes that are way too powerful for their skills or they try to do what the pros do (drag a knee, scrape a footpeg, etc). If I were to ride on track with the same intensity that I drive on track, yeah, I'd kill myself. Pro bikers have ballz the size of pumpkins. F1, WRC, etc. drivers are wusses by comparison. But riding on the street with: gigantic cars/SUVs, absent-minded drivers, bad drivers, distracted drivers,curbs, etc. is even scarier IMO. You can do everything right on a bike and still get killed in a blink of an eye by a very minor mistake by a driver. The chances of that happening while you drive a car are much, much lower. The accident rate for DEs is higher than street driving. That's because we drive differently (i.e., much closer to the limit) at the track. But we all consider the track a safer place to drive hard. It's the same for bikes, but I'd say the track is a million times (arbitrary number) safer than the street to ride a bike hard.

The Tremblant quip was a bit facetious. In reality, I'd never ride a bike around there (except at grandma speed). The runoff in many places is terrible for a bike (and the armco would be like guillotines). And anyway, with my skills, I'd have to piddle around on a desmo rr or I'd kill myself, regardless of the track.
I've been discussing accident and injury rates at motorcycle DEs with Dave Spragg who does these a lot. Here is a quote:
Yeah… my group was 16 rider I think and we had one broken humorous, one collarbone, and a big swelled up hand along with 3 totaled bikes and one scratched up one. Then again those guys were all new track riders on what I call “fast fucking bikes” and were most likely pushing themselves too hard. I am not sure of the later as I wasn’t out there in that group.So, 1/3 of the C group was injured and 1/3 of the C group bikes were totalled.

I did a motorcycle track event once when dinosaurs roamed the planet and McCain had just qualified for AARP and it was a complete blast. I'd -love- to track my bike. But I'm not up for the injury rate. I like being INSIDE the steel box, not wrapped around the steel projectile like a cushion.

I'd love to watch you drive the desmo around tremblant. I'd even be willing to help with the pre-emptive flowers to the hospital pool (you know someone will need them, you just don't know who).

Motorcycling with MA drivers is dangerous, but I've watched bikes on the track. I was instructing at a skills school event at NHMS in the parking lot next to turn 6 while bikes were on the track. The ambulance came to turn 6 at least 3 times in one day (I may have missed a few). The track is way more dangerous than even downtown mass after a sox game.

-j

[Emre]

I can't remember if emry loves the LS1 or the LS2, and the search function won't even try to look for such a short word so I can't tell.Any variation of the alloy-block LSx is fine by me. But I like all kinds of engines. Current favs include: Cossie YB series; Honda F20C; Mistu 4G63T; Mazda 13B; and Ford Duratec.

I'm a slut like that :rolleyes:


Here is a decent use for the LS2 engine, in a package with a reasonable HP/weight ratio.I've seen a couple of Boss Hoss bikes in person...and I must say that they don't really do it for me. These seem much cooler to my (non-biker) eyes:

http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2006/06/confederate-b91-wraith.jpg

http://www.strangevehicles.com/images/content/108129.jpg

http://blog.crazymoto.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/confederateb120-2.jpg

http://images.hotbikeweb.com/features/0709_hbkp_06_z+off_the_line+b120_wraith.jpg

[johnmdanskin]

I just test drove a Buell Ulysses as a potential Ducati lateral (maybe slightly more touring, slightly less sport, and it has heated handlebars!).

But, the vibration is so bad, my vision was literally blurry at stoplights. 65mph is unbearable, but 70-75 is fine. I didn't try faster. Slow speed handling, for example U turns are -way- easier on the Buell. Handling on the Buell is fine relative to the Ducati. Good enough so I can't tell.

The Buell has the 1200cc aircooled Harley engine and it makes a -great- noise when you open it up at low RPMs. Wow.

The vibration is it though. If you put beers in the saddlebags they'd probably explode. I thought the Ducati had a little bit of vibration, but now I realize that it is silky smooth. I'll never think another bad thought about vibration.

I read "embrace the vibration" in one of the reviews. Honestly, if you tried you'd need new fillings in a few minutes. I could see the Buell as a sport bike only, but I like to ride long distances...

(Hey, it's not on topic, but it's close for me.)