Club Racing School at the Glen September 24-25

[Phil]

If you have done a sufficient number of DE events to be signed off as a solo driver and want to learn about club racing, then please consider signing up for the BMW CCA Club Racing School at Oktoberfest.

The curriculum of this school is excellent and it is been refined over a considerable number of years. This is the best way to take the next step.

Phil

[mightydread]

If you have done a sufficient number of DE events to be signed off as a solo driver and want to learn about club racing, then please consider signing up for the BMW CCA Club Racing School at Oktoberfest.

The curriculum of this school is excellent and it is been refined over a considerable number of years. This is the best way to take the next step.

Phil

i am goimg !!! i can't wait for this school.

mikie

[Phil]

i am goimg !!! i can't wait for this school.

mikie

Excellent. I'm sure you will love the race school, the track, and a taste of Ofest.

Will you be getting your CR license and racing at the three Canadian events in 09?

We'd love to see you join us.

Phil

[mightydread]

Excellent. I'm sure you will love the race school, the track, and a taste of Ofest.

Will you be getting your CR license and racing at the three Canadian events in 09?

We'd love to see you join us.

Phil
yes sir , that is the plan . if the budget gods are good to me i will like to go to winterfest also.

cheers
mikie

[Phil]

yes sir , that is the plan . if the budget gods are good to me i will like to go to winterfest also.

cheers
mikie

Fantastic. Let's hook up at an upcoming event.

BTW, do you still have your Pathfinder? I love mine as a tow vehicle.

Phil

[mightydread]

Fantastic. Let's hook up at an upcoming event.

BTW, do you still have your Pathfinder? I love mine as a tow vehicle.

Phil

looking forward too it phil . i still have the pathfinder but she is on her last legs . i dont use her to tow .


cheers
mikie

[johnmdanskin]

cr school was probably the best time I've ever had on race track. Really racing the drivers are a little faster than the average cr school driver... The school is awesome. I'd say the most fun you can have with your pants on but I don't think they actually check to see if you are wearing pants.

[lapperspeed]

I'm accepted at the cr school but trying to convince myself to go... How long a drive from MTL? Where do you stay?

Thanks, Stéphane

[Bmwaddict]

This is part of BMWCCA Oktoberfest 2008 from September 23rd to 28th

more info here:

http://www.bmwccaofest.org/

[johnmdanskin]

I'm accepted at the cr school but trying to convince myself to go... How long a drive from MTL? Where do you stay?

Thanks, Stéphane

By now a lot of the places will be full. I usually try to stay at the Seneca Lodge. This is the place with all the history, the amazingly cool bar with hundreds of arrows shot into the wall (people also come for archery), good dinner, and the 50 year old bathrooms. Probably full by now. I registered in April.

When I don't get into the Seneca Lodge, I stay at the Relax Inn, which is not too far away, and CHEAP, like $50ish. Hotels are not expensive near WGI.

Google maps will tell you how far the drive is, and also tell you about the many many hotels in the area. It's octoberfest, so should be very festive and fun and with every kind of BMW ever made there. 2002 touring. BMW 600. M1. etc.

WGI has got to be closer to MTL than RI, and this is just a casual little 6-7 hour drive for me. One of my closer tracks.

[johnmdanskin]

Also, it's a great great track. WAY different from anything else you've ever done. High high speed corners. 80mph busstop at the end of 150mph straight (unless you are in a spece36, in which case you almost don't need brakes), long long drifting carosel, twisting elevation changes, The Esses which you should take flat but you have to be exactly on line and if you lift you'll play pinball on the armco on both sides. It's reallly cool.

[bimmers-for-life]

It's still a good 6 hr drive (with the border crossing) from Montreal. I did the CR school there 2 years ago and it was a blast. The track is a lot of fun as is the overall atmosphere.

Enjoy!

Paul

[jacclark]

I'd love to sign up but I don't know when the car will be ready.

[mightydread]

I'd love to sign up but I don't know when the car will be ready.


come on dude sing up !! i think i'm the only one going from quebec.


mikie

[Dave]

I'm accepted at the cr school but trying to convince myself to go... How long a drive from MTL? Where do you stay?

Thanks, Stéphane

Steph,

It's about a 7 hour drive, worth every minute of it! Just make sure the car is top... I mean TOP shape, cause it's fast and demanding!

The area is beautiful, lakes, country mansions, mountains.... if you have a new girl, she will find you soooo romantic!

Amuse-toi! Ne te laisse pas intimider par la perception que tu fais de la track... c'est pus simple que tu penses.

[Dave]

I'm accepted at the cr school but trying to convince myself to go... How long a drive from MTL? Where do you stay?

Thanks, Stéphane

Steph,

It's about a 7 hour drive, worth every minute of it! Just make sure the car is top... I mean TOP shape, cause it's fast and demanding!

The area is beautiful, lakes, country mansions, mountains.... if you have a new girl, she will find you soooo romantic!

Amuse-toi! Ne te laisse pas intimider par la perception que tu fais de la track... c'est plus simple que tu penses.

[mightydread]

OMG!!!!!!!! now that was amazing . what a track and what a great school and great bunch of guys to run with .


mikie

[Phil]

OMG!!!!!!!! now that was amazing . what a track and what a great school and great bunch of guys to run with .


mikie

Excellent.

Next step is your race license!!

Heard the weather for the racers was awful.

Can you report on what happened?

Phil

[mightydread]

Excellent.

Next step is your race license!!

Heard the weather for the racers was awful.

Can you report on what happened?

Phil


i will be appling for my license in the next couple of weeks .

weather for wensday and thursday was amazing sunny and around 70 f .

cheers
mikie

[johnmdanskin]

Weather for friday saturday and sunday was not great. On friday it rained and the racer2 qual session was fogged out. On Saturday there was one session with some drying at the end and a race IN THE DRY. I finished 38th out of 48 which means my race for not last went really well. On sunday it rained and the fun race was fogged out, but we wouldn't have had the quorum of 6 racers anyway because everyone but me and one other guy left in disgust with the weather.

I can't say what happened to everyone. Several cars were "all done" after the event. I didn't go around and count. 5ish? Quite a few dings. mylaps.com has the detailed results without the drama. Sometime soon I'll post a utube with my race remembrances, which will have more to do with passing than with being passed for once. 8-). At my prev event at the glen the best I could do was 2:32. This weekend in the dry I did 2:23. Nothing like Mike Gilbert's times, but I'll take 9 seconds weekend 2 weekend anytime. I was pretty bad in the rain on my dry (but treaded) A048s. It wasn't just the tires. Until the last session I was completely driving like a petrified grandmother. But I did go out and I didn't crash and I gradually got faster. In the last race in the rain I managed to finish not last mostly because I had a bunch of people behind me at the start because of the dry race.

Conditions were basically appalling, especially for me with my dry tires, but overall I had a blast.

(I didn't have wets because the spece36 spec tire is changing and I didn't want to spend $1000 on a set of soon to be orphaned wets, especially since I just had to spend $1000 on a set of mostly orphaned drys. I'll have to try to use them up before the first race when I'll have to take them off the wheels in favor of the next spece36 tire du jour.

It's just amazing how important qual position is in the rain. I was just driving my rain line, which meant that anyone who wanted to pass me had to do it on the concrete which wasn't going to happen. At least not until I made little errors, which unfortunately did happen from time to time.

It will be really cool to mix it up with you next year Mikie! What class are you going for?

[mightydread]

dam i wish i could write up a report like you ,,,,, also wish i had a camcorder.

here is a vid of one of the rolling start race exercises , from another students car . the track exercises where high pace action . total amzing fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj2UfzEcHJ8



i will have to run in D-mod heheeh and get my butt kick.

cheers
mikie

[johnmdanskin]

Wow, that's a lot of close racing. That guy's car is really fast. He's pretty fast too. 2nd lap was about 2:17 in traffic. I thought his hands were moving fast but the car turned in and he didn't have to make corrections at all so it was working for him.

Nice video.

DMod will be interesting. Those guys go by the spece36 cars like jet planes. At ofest JP and slower was separated from the faster cars. We were all happy not to be on the same track with the jet planes. Last year aaron povoledo did a sub 2 minute lap in a bmod car. He was 20 seconds a lap faster than the fastest spece36. That's about 1 part in 6 or 10-20 miles per hour faster ON AVERAGE than the fastest spece36, js and kp cars. And, they are doing this with us on the track holding them up.

[Andrei]

BMOD is a different sport from SPECE36. At that point it becomes all about spending more money than your opponents can.

[Phil]

At ofest JP and slower was separated from the faster cars. We were all happy not to be on the same track with the jet planes. Last year aaron povoledo did a sub 2 minute lap in a bmod car. He was 20 seconds a lap faster than the fastest spece36. That's about 1 part in 6 or 10-20 miles per hour faster ON AVERAGE than the fastest spece36, js and kp cars. And, they are doing this with us on the track holding them up.

Hey John--

How were your races?

It looked like you did well in SPEC36.

Was it fun? In the rain?

I'm glad I wasn't there, especially given I had such marvelous weather at the Fall Classic.

Phil

[johnmdanskin]

Hey John--

How were your races?

It looked like you did well in SPEC36.

Was it fun? In the rain?

I'm glad I wasn't there, especially given I had such marvelous weather at the Fall Classic.

Phil

I had a total blast in the dry (1 1/2 sessions, more or less).

In the wet I persevered. There are people who love the wet. I figure that if I go out every single chance I get I will become one of those people. Unless I wreck my car and decide never to go out in the rain again. So far rain is an acquired taste that I have not yet acquired.

At the end I was going faster in the wet and nearly starting to have fun. I didn't actually get to the point where I was going fast relative to my backmarker peers, which limited the fun a little, but then I was on drys. I might have fun sometime on wets. 8-)

Unless you or your car is injured, even bad racing is pretty good, but the rainy part was pushing it for me this time.

I got to have some serious time on a skid pad and a figure 8 the weekend before the race and I got so I could control some very "dukes of hazard" slides 29 out of 30 times, but somehow I didn't feel like trying at 3 times the speed with soft dirt to catch and roll the car which would only stop tumbling when I slammed into the armco which I would also have to repair. I have a vivid imagination.

I'm glad I went. I did complain to the organizers about the weather. They could have done better.