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SCP8 will be held october 12, 13 and 14 at the olympic stadium.
Last year we had a small booth with the club that we prepared in about 7 days.
This year we can prepare something better with more time.
There was a lot of new faces at Mont-Tremblant last week so it means that we are getting to be known. Last year there was a lot of people intersted by the fact that we were not the pimped BMW club guys but real driving enthusiasts.
With a nice attrative booth we can attract a lot of new members for next year HPDE.
Five or six cars, flyers and a video of autumn leaves could be just enough and not too expensive for the club.
http://www.sportcompactperformance.com/
As you know, I'm a big supporter of the idea. This is something that Eric and I had been pushing for a long time. I'm glad we finally managed to pull it off last October...even though we had less than a week to prepare! I definitely feel that we should have a presence at the biggest, best attended car show in the province.
The combination of a top-notch website/forum (which we have thanks to Eric and Andrei) and a presence at some key car shows is absolutely critical to promote our Club and our driving events IMNSHO.
With a nice attrative booth we can attract a lot of new members for next year HPDE.According to the info Henry just shared with us regarding our last Tremblant event, roughly 75% of the students at MidsummerHeat II were local Quebec drivers. For the first time in our Club's history, we were able to basically fill a Tremblant event without relying on drivers from Ontario and the USA.
Clearly, we've been doing a great job reaching out to the local car nuts. I think we need to continue.
But I won't be able to lend the Evo this year :o
Emre
Five or six cars, flyers and a video of autumn leaves could be just enough and not too expensive for the club.BTW, this is the kind of event for which it's VERY easy to attract sponsors. The cost of entering individual cars as part of a car club display is quite modest...but the cost of a commercial vendor booth is astronomical. However, we're allowed to put any decals we want on our cars.
So, if Talon Tires, SDP Motorsports, Autosport Concept, Motul, Torco, or anyone else wants some exposure, we can arrange to put their decals on our cars as long as they help offset the cost of the entry fees. It's win-win for the Club and our sponsors.
The only real issue is finding volunteers who are prepared to man the display and watch the cars all weekend.
Emre
Silverblades181
08-28-2007, 05:01 PM
I'm willing to volunteer to help.
Andrei
08-30-2007, 11:11 AM
But I won't be able to lend the Evo this year :o
I think we can replace that with a GT3 or even a Radical :)
We'll write in Gregster as the owner of those again.
Nadim 323Ci
08-30-2007, 02:45 PM
I could be interested. I wouldn't mind displaying my car in the booth if you want. I just need to know the details before giving my word ...
drive4fun
08-30-2007, 07:59 PM
I can volunteer to help also.
Gregster
08-30-2007, 08:25 PM
I think we can replace that with a GT3 or even a Radical :)
We'll write in Gregster as the owner of those again.
Put yours in the show with that giant ricer wing its a sure win!
I'd be willing to volunteer again:) We all had a fun weekend last year!
I think next tuesday we can discuss of that at the meeting. If we can find some sponsors to cover the event expenses which are 85$ per car we display and 100$ for the electricity that would be great. I dont mind putting a huge sticker of a business that support the club. I think the lease for a commercial booth is from 500$ to 2000$. That could be a bargain on both sides.
6 or 8 cars would be perfect, last year we had half and half of BMW so it showed that you dont need a BMW to be BMW club member.
sebdavid
08-31-2007, 08:45 PM
I could see a few ///M models (E30, E36 and E46 M3, maybe an M5 if we can, and an M roadster and/or coupe), a couple track/race cars, a GT3 and a Radical. Explaining what that little go-kart with a Busa engine can do on a track to the attendees could be fun.
My car has scraches and is not in the best cosmetic shape, so I don't think I could bring much visual attraction to the party.
I don't think I'll be driving at AutumnLeaves due to budgetary constraints. That means maybe I can spend some time filming from a few points of view (in-car video if possible), I have a decent video camera (HD). I'll ask if we can borrow a plasma display from where I work, if we have a Dumoulin banner it might be OK. I can see the video running in loops from a PC, and if we have other videos we want to show that'd be cool too. Could be impressive. Maybe a sound system? I could probably arrange that too.
I'm a salesperson, I could stay there for a while to talk to the public there, wouldn't be much different than my day job...
We'll talk about it all at the meeting this Tuesday.
P.S.: we need to find out if the photographers would let us display photographs that were taken by them at various events (I have both Sanair DVDs from this year).
bmwqc
08-31-2007, 09:42 PM
P.S.: we need to find out if the photographers would let us display photographs that were taken by them at various events (I have both Sanair DVDs from this year).
I will ask Matthieu. I don't suppose we will have a problem, after all we would be promoting their product at the same time.
I could see a few ///M models (E30, E36 and E46 M3, maybe an M5 if we can, and an M roadster and/or coupe), a couple track/race cars, a GT3 and a Radical.My bias is that there should be at least 1 or 2 "normal" cars ... like Civics, Mazda3's, Golfs, etc. Otherwise we might unintentionally send the message that you need to own either a BMW or an exotic track-special to run with us. Too many expensive, high-end machines might intimidate people running more ordinary cars.
Last year, we brought a mix of street cars (a Mitsubishi, a Honda, a modded E30, and an E30 M3) and dedicated track cars (a J-Stock club racer and a GT3). The mix of old & new, street & track, exotic & mainstream was a pretty good representation of the Club. My impression is that David's E30 and Eric's Civic generated the most attention.
The way I see it, you want all the cars to be relatively "track oriented" since that's what we're about. Maybe 1-2 exotic track-specials or racers to draw some attention, then a nice mix of both BMW and non-BMW street cars with the typical kinds of performance mods you see amongst our Club members.
Personally, I'd like to see Serge & Cherif's E30, Lee's '02, and John's Mini GP somewhere in the mix. Then maybe some newer BMW's (like Nadim or Karim's E46). Then the "usual" mix of E30 M3's and GT3's ;) And, of course, a Chrysler Sebring from Hertz :D
Emre
bmwqc
08-31-2007, 10:30 PM
[quote=Emre And, of course, a Chrysler Sebring from Hertz :D
Emre[/quote]
I hear the new Sebrings are fat and clumsy compared to the old model.
Gregster
09-01-2007, 07:01 AM
I hear the new Sebrings are fat and clumsy compared to the old model.
They also have the worst throttle response known to man kind!
sebdavid
09-01-2007, 08:44 AM
I agree. 'Normal' cars are good too. I got a little carried away with my 'dream garage' here... :-)
blacksheep
09-01-2007, 10:47 AM
My impression is that David's E30 and Eric's Civic generated the most attention.Ummmm, no. Your Evo gathered by FAR the most attention because those cars are rare here. And "Greg's GT3" was quite popular too.
But like you mentioned it's important to have other cars so people understand it's not necessary to have a BMW to join the club
Gregster
09-01-2007, 02:15 PM
Ummmm, no. Your Evo gathered by FAR the most attention because those cars are rare here. And "Greg's GT3" was quite popular too.
But like you mentioned it's important to have other cars so people understand it's not necessary to have a BMW to join the club
We need a Civic so that the common man can feel welcome
Now where can we find a Civic...
blacksheep
09-01-2007, 03:48 PM
a civic? not sure we should stoop that low :)
We need a Civic so that the common man can feel welcomeWhat about an Accent? :)
Emre
bmwqc
09-01-2007, 04:46 PM
P.S.: we need to find out if the photographers would let us display photographs that were taken by them at various events (I have both Sanair DVDs from this year).
Mathieu Lambert just got back to me re/ the photos. It is OK with him as long as we add in his name to the pics.
Let me enquire if you guys can repeat the whole experience again in April 2008, when we will have the 2008 event schedule to promote as well as a possible Race School program, which will need to sell too.
As of October 2007 we have no idea what 2008 will look like. We don't have one date at any track, yet... How good is it to give away pamphlets with NO tangible offer. The season is over. And people have no memory.
blacksheep
09-01-2007, 05:49 PM
that would be great but SCP doesn't happen in April, it happens in October
Isn't there another similar event early in the season? It would be sad to see all this energy wasted as people have very short term memory. What events do we have to sell in October? The driving season is over.
Gregster
09-01-2007, 06:15 PM
Isn't there another similar event early in the season? It would be sad to see all this energy wasted as people have very short term memory. What events do we have to sell in October? The driving season is over.
NSC is in April its not even close to SCP size...
Lee,
I know you have little respect for or interest in these SCP events. But I think you have to look at it this way: the event attracts a minimum of 50,000 people over the course of the weekend. What other venue do you know where our club can can be exposed to over 50,000 car enthusiasts for an investment of just $85 per car? As long as we have volunteers to man the show, I don't see what the problem is.
As Eric pointed out in the other thread:
Let's be extremely conservative and estimate 1%; out of 50,000 that's still 500 people - a substantial number. If just 2% of those 500 people sign up for an an event, that's 10 more participants and it can make the difference between a successful event or a money-loser. Just getting our message to 0.02% (1/5000) of the crowd @ SCP can have a substantial effect on the club's financial stability and the success of our track events.I think that's the bottom line. If only 1% of the whole crowd is interested, that's still MASSIVE exposure for our club...and our sponsors. This isn't just a weekend show-n-shine in a Tim Hortons parking lot. This is the single biggest event of it's kind in the entire province.
Emre
What events do we have to sell in October?We're not promoting the events per se. We're promoting the club and directing people to the website.
Emre
bmwqc
09-01-2007, 07:22 PM
Let me enquire if you guys can repeat the whole experience again in April 2008, when we will have the 2008 event schedule to promote as well as a possible Race School program, which will need to sell too.
As of October 2007 we have no idea what 2008 will look like. We don't have one date at any track, yet... How good is it to give away pamphlets with NO tangible offer. The season is over. And people have no memory.
Track event dates for 2008 can only be confirmed in the new year. There is nothing we can do to advance that. This should not mean that the club should twiddle its fingers in the meantime. We obviously cannot change the date of the SCP event, and as for short term memory on the part of the visitors, we can surely find a way to get around that. All we need to do is to have a couple of lady club members to pass out cards to visitors to fill out (w/emails) so they could be placed on the mailing list.
All we need to do is to have a couple of lady club members to pass out cards to visitors to fill out (w/emails) so they could be placed on the mailing list.That sounds like an idea that Lee should approve of ;)
Emre
sebdavid
09-01-2007, 09:58 PM
Another thing: just getting them interested enough to sniff around in the forums and the website could give them a feel for the club and what it stands for.
I know I simply looked at 'club bmw quebec' in Google because I had just bought a bimmer, ended up on the website, browsed through the forum a little bit, got the message that track events were basically what the club was all about, which was enough to sell me.
Due to budget constraints, I waited 'til the year after to get my membership and start attending events, but I didn't go look for other clubs of any kind. At that point it had little to do with the fact the club was a BMW club; I just liked the orientation towards good clean fun learning on race tracks.
I'd think that targeting the right crowd at the right moment is more efficient. The SCP crowd is under-age and moneyless. That's the crowd for the $20 lapping sessions in St-Eustache. Not our crowd who will spend $700 per weekend. How many people who registered to our events in 2007 were from SCP? 50,000 persons of the wrong crowd is still missing the target.
What about Salon de l'auto at the end of January? That's a more mature crowd, with more money, and would perhaps be better for the club's image...
sebdavid
09-01-2007, 10:16 PM
I thought about the Salon de l'Auto. How expensive is it to get exposure over there?
One huge drawback is that Salon de l'Auto attendees are very often:
1-wannabe car lovers who just come to look at some 'exotica' without being 'into it' enough to seriously commit financially (driving 15 year-old Ford Probes).
2-people genuinely interested in buying a car, usually a Toyota or a Hyundai, i.e. not car enthusiasts.
What about the Grand Prix? How expensive is it to rent a booth there? Maybe even some less 'prestigious' racing events around the city, i.e. Canadian Superbike race at Tremblant, Nascar, etc...
I'd think that targeting the right crowd at the right moment is more efficient. The SCP crowd is under-age and moneyless. That's the crowd for the $20 lapping sessions in St-Eustache. Not our crowd who will spend $700 per weekend. How many people who registered to our events in 2007 were from SCP? 50,000 persons of the wrong crowd is still missing the target.I can personally think of at least 6-7 members in our own club who started off as import-oriented "show-n-shiners" but who are now track rats. I don't see how you can say that this is the wrong crowd! If 50,000 car enthusiasts is the wrong target, then what is the right target?
What about Salon de l'Auto at the end of January? That's a more mature crowd, with more money, and would perhaps be better for the club's image...The big problem with Salon de l'Auto is that it runs 9-10 days...most of which are weekdays. And it costs a fortune. I'm not sure we have the manpower and financial reserve to manage such a massive undertaking. With a show like SCP, the event takes place over a weekend, which makes it MUCH easier to find volunteers. More importantly, we only need to invest ~$500 for a 6-car display. That's the kind of money that 1 or 2 sponsors could easily cover.
Also, there's no reason to think that the "mature" crowd at the Salon de l'Auto is necessarily any better for us than the "under-age and moneyless" crowd from SCP. As sebdavid points out, the vast majority of Salon de l'Auto visitors are either: just going for the hell of it; looking to buy a new minivan; or looking for some Ferraris and Lambos to take pics of. What percent will actually sign up for HPDE in the future? Who knows? But I don't think it's a large number.
The SCP guys might be young, but they are at least car enthusiasts. Sure, their definition of "car enthusiast" isn't the same as ours...but there's no doubt they're CRAZY about cars. Those of us who spent 3 days at the SCP7 show last October were VERY impressed by what we saw. It's easy for someone to say: "This is a waste of time. These kids are not our crowd." But we saw the enthusiasm they had. We answered questions for HOURS ... until our voices were literally hoarse from talking. We gave away hundreds of fliers. Believe me, there was a LOT of interest.
Emre
blacksheep
09-02-2007, 01:25 AM
OK now there's an argument I can definitely put to rest. I'm not an armchair expert sitting at home philosophizing about it ... I have done BOTH shows so I have first-hand experience.
for a club like ours, the Montreal Auto Show totally sucks. There are 2 6-hour periods where you get people who really know cars : the afternoon of the opening day and the afternoon of the 2nd Friday. The remainder of the ten 14-hour days alternate between being absolutely FLOODED with total idiots who don't know and don't care about cars but they go for ... well, I really have no idea why they go there ... then the rest of the time is just dead (weekdays).
Trust me, the crowd quality is way, way lower than SCP. The cost is astronomical and staffing a booth for 10 x 14-hour days will be impossible.
Lee, why are you giving opinions about the quality of the crowd at SCP? Did you spend 3 days in the booth last year? No, you didn't even show up. Emre, Greg, Hugo, Stan, David and I actually DID spend 3 days there so we probably have a better picture of the crowd quality.
Karin
09-02-2007, 12:30 PM
That sounds like an idea that Lee should approve of ;)
Emre
I'm not the kind of lady that Lee usually prefers and approves of :p but I am a lady club member and I can come and help out if needed.
K
SpeedTT
09-03-2007, 06:33 PM
Pensons variation des styles, des couleurs et des marques afin d'attirer le plus de gens possibles
style: familiale, 4 porte, coupé, GT,street, race, etc
couleur: pas monochrome, couleurs foncées avec couleurs claires
Marques: Japonais (incliant coréen), allemande je laisserais faire les voitures américaines qui ne représente que très peu notre marché
Évidemment une sélection de photos prises lors de nos evenements ou on remarque différentes marques de voitures... dont certaines tournantt sur 3 roues serait bien. Le tout sur un gros carton ou foamcore. Accompahné des lieux et dates des evements réalisés cette année par les mêmes du club.
Silverblades181
09-03-2007, 09:55 PM
So are we going or not? I need to know in advance to take those days off from work.
So are we going or not? I need to know in advance to take those days off from work.I understand that this will be one of the main issues discussed at the next general meeting (tomorrow night). Anyone who has very strong feelings either for or against our participation should make their opinion known to the directors.
The basic issues are:
Is is worth investing approximately $500 CDN to reach these 50,000 peope?
Can we get sponsors to cover all (or a large part) of the cost this late in the game?
Do we have the volunteers to pull it off? (This is not trivial! It's a lot of work.)
If we agree to do it, then we need to consider:
Which cars do we enter in the show? (All cars must be pre-approved by the SCP organization.)
What's our message?
What promotional tools do we have? (Videos? Photos? Fliers?)
How do we make sure our sponsors (if any) get their money's worth?
Emre
Isn't there another similar event early in the season? It would be sad to see all this energy wasted as people have very short term memory. What events do we have to sell in October? The driving season is over.
The first time I saw BMWQC track pics(early summer 2003), and learned about HPDEs (I was so clueless I had to look the acronym up) it was an eureka for me... my memory remained sharp for 12 months, and what I had to do the next year was very clear. If someone is interested, he will remember the info. be if for next year, or the year after that, or whathever. At the basis, people who go to SCP(they pay to go to SCP) are car enthusiasts, just like us. The day they decide to hit the track, I am positive they will remember the passionate group of people who showcased the BMWQC performance driving schools scp, the emphasis on safety and education, the technical knowledge, the friendship/cooperation with other clubs, and all the other stuff the club stands for.
imho, seems there are a lot of club members motivated and ready to volunteer for the show, that's 50% success already. The rest is organization.
I'll ask if we can borrow a plasma display from where I work, if we have a Dumoulin banner it might be OK. I can see the video running in loops from a PC, and if we have other videos we want to show that'd be cool too. Could be impressive. Maybe a sound system? I could probably arrange that too.BTW, I think this would be an AWESOME idea! We wanted to do something like that last year, but we just didn't have the time to prepare or the resources to pull it off.
It would be great to run a loop of old DTM and BTCC videos featuring E30 and E36 M3's fighting Sierra Cosworths and MB 190E's. We could also throw up hi-res photos from our track events in a sort of slide-show.
If there's any way to make this work, I would go for it! I'd put Dumoulin stickers everywhere :D
Emre
At the basis, people who go to SCP(they pay to go to SCP) are car enthusiasts, just like us. The day they decide to hit the track, I am positive they will remember the passionate group of people who showcased the BMWQC performance driving schools scp, the emphasis on safety and education, the technical knowledge, the friendship/cooperation with other clubs, and all the other stuff the club stands for.The SCP kids might not be "our crowd" today, but some of them might come over to our side if we show them what we do and make them feel welcome.
One of the common things we heard at SCP7 was that people had heard of the BMW Club of Quebec and some of them even knew that we did some track events. But, they assumed that we: (a) were a bunch of old, rich snobs; (b) only ran events at very expensive tracks; and (c) charged thousands to participate. The VAST majority of these guys thought that they needed to own a BMW to join the club and participate in our events. They were surprised that we were generally young, broke car nuts who welcomed all makes and models and ran affordable events at local tracks.
Emre
One of the common things we heard at SCP7 was that people had heard of the BMW Club of Quebec and some of them even knew that we did some track events. But, they assumed that we: (a) were a bunch of old, rich snobs; (b) only ran events at very expensive tracks; and (c) charged thousands to participate. The VAST majority of these guys thought that they needed to own a BMW to join the club and participate in our events. They were surprised that we were generally young, broke car nuts who welcomed all makes and models and ran affordable events at local tracks.
Emre
(d) One of the few clubs (if not the only club) that accepts any brand and does HPDEs at le circuit mont-tremblant...
a few people also confuse events of BMWquebec club with the bmw corporate parking lot driving school thing.
bmwqc
09-04-2007, 08:23 AM
(d) One of the few clubs (if not the only club) that accepts any brand and does HPDEs at le circuit mont-tremblant...
a few people also confuse events of BMWquebec club with the bmw corporate parking lot driving school thing.
I hear those parking lot courses are quite expensive. But at least the participants get to take home an expensive looking polo shirt that says "BMW Driver Training" embroidered prominently on the front. ;)
blacksheep
09-04-2007, 12:18 PM
one thing we could do to help people's "memory" would be to make a contest where we give away a free entry into one of the club's "minor" events (sanair, mecaglisse, etc) and some prizes donated by sponsors but people have to sign up for the mailing list to be eligible
that way we can set up a list of interested prospects and send them info on our 2008 driving events when the schedule is decided :)
one thing we could do to help people's "memory" would be to make a contest where we give away a free entry into one of the club's "minor" events (sanair, mecaglisse, etc) and some prizes donated by sponsors but people have to sign up for the mailing list to be eligible
that way we can set up a list of interested prospects and send them info on our 2008 driving events when the schedule is decided :)Nice one :cool:
Emre
Andrei
09-04-2007, 03:15 PM
I can volunteer my cars for the show. I got a CF wing on one which makes it perfectly appropriate for the event. I'll have to get the rubber marks off, though.
johnmdanskin
09-04-2007, 03:32 PM
...They were surprised that we were generally young, broke car nuts who welcomed all makes and models and ran affordable events at local tracks.
Emre
although I am not really qualified, being neither young nor broke, this is basically what attracts me to the quebec club, despite the obvious distance problems. This is a big part of the quebec club and it really makes the club attractive to people who are looking for something informal and FUN.
Gregster
09-04-2007, 05:40 PM
I can volunteer my cars for the show. I got a CF wing on one which makes it perfectly appropriate for the event. I'll have to get the rubber marks off, though.
You better make time to clean it!
Id be willing to offer my services for the 3 days of SCP :)
bmwqc
09-04-2007, 08:15 PM
although I am not really qualified, being neither young nor broke, this is basically what attracts me to the quebec club, despite the obvious distance problems. This is a big part of the quebec club and it really makes the club attractive to people who are looking for something informal and FUN.
That's good to know. That we're not perceived as a bunch of stuffed shirts w/starched collars.
johnmdanskin
09-04-2007, 08:32 PM
That's good to know. That we're not perceived as a bunch of stuffed shirts w/starched collars. you are the only one henry. Everyone else is fun loving and footloose. ;)
bmwqc
09-04-2007, 11:41 PM
you are the only one henry. Everyone else is fun loving and footloose. ;)
Thanks for that observation! :(
johnmdanskin
09-05-2007, 09:26 AM
Thanks for that observation! :(
supposed to be a joke. darned written format doesn't always work. sorry. you've been one of the major guys organizing these fun fun fun events, and I especially loved seeing your and your m6. The mazda is nice too, if maybe a little snobby :rolleyes:.
bmwqc
09-05-2007, 10:25 AM
supposed to be a joke. darned written format doesn't always work. sorry. you've been one of the major guys organizing these fun fun fun events, and I especially loved seeing your and your m6. The mazda is nice too, if maybe a little snobby :rolleyes:.
Hah hah, No problemo, I know it's a joke! :p
I will be taking the big blue coupe to LCMT at the next event. Will you be there?
bmwqc
09-05-2007, 11:01 AM
You better make time to clean it!
Id be willing to offer my services for the 3 days of SCP :)
We're going to need volunteers and cars, especially modified ones. All cars must be in good presentable condition.
Please get in touch with Percy (SpeedTT). He will be taking the lead on this.
johnmdanskin
09-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Hah hah, No problemo, I know it's a joke! :p
I will be taking the big blue coupe to LCMT at the next event. Will you be there?
autumn leaves 9/29-30? I never got a confirmation, but I see that they have cashed my check, so I'm planning to show.
Any news? The event is just 1 week away!
Emre
sebdavid
10-07-2007, 05:12 PM
Things seem to be under way.
I've got the approval of my boss to bring a 40 or 42 inch flatscreen with a stand, I'll bring my PC, I'm taking every free minute I have to make the two videos (one of the various track events we had, one specifically on AutumnLeaves).
Anything else, you'll have to ask Percy or Hugo I guess.
SpeedTT
10-13-2007, 08:00 AM
Nous avons un beau kiosque. Les bénévoles font un travail superbes. Sébastien nous a monté de superbes vidéos en HD présenté sur ecran 40 po HD.
J'estime à plus de 100 personnes le nombre de visiteurs a notre kiosque.
Beaucoup de "ouaireux" des jeunes qui n'on probablement pas d'auto ni même de "HOTWHEELS". Des ti-jos connaissants... mais aussi heureusement des candidats potentiels pour notre club. Des gens de plus de 35 ans qui aimeraient rouler avec leur véhicules selon une formule (HPDE). Ce groupe de gens semblant intéressé est d'environ 8 à 9 personnes.
N'oublions pas que c'est le samedi et le dimanche "les grosses journées".
Gregster
10-14-2007, 01:06 AM
I maned the booth from when David and Stanley left until 10:30 .Some people were really interested in the club while others kept pestering me with stupid questions, one guy actually started to argue that Hugo's M3 was powered by a 6cyl...
Percy check your PM's if you read this
SpeedTT
10-14-2007, 06:32 PM
Encore merci aux bénévoles.
Une analyse du memership a la fin de l'été prochain nous permettra de verifier si la présence à SCP est un investissemnt rentable pour le club.
Un certains nombre de prospects potentiels se sont manifeetés. Certains revenant plus d'une fois a notre kiosque.
Great job, guys! Thanks to Percy, Eric, Henry, Hugo, Greg, and all the others who volunteered.
Any pics of the event?
Emre
bmwqc
10-14-2007, 08:05 PM
Great job, guys! Thanks to Percy, Eric, Henry, Hugo, Greg, and all the others who volunteered.
Any pics of the event?
Emre
Here's a teaser ;)
I'm taking every free minute I have to make the two videos (one of the various track events we had, one specifically on AutumnLeaves).Can we take a look at those videos? Maybe we can host them on the website? I'd love to see them!
Emre
sebdavid
10-15-2007, 06:42 PM
Working on it.
I will make a new subject on that, asking whether members want it in high def on DVD (only readable on a PC, better picture), on a regular DVD (lesser pictures, but readable in any DVD player), or through the web (crappy picture and/or huge bandwidth needed).
I will make a new subject on that, asking whether members want it in high def on DVD (only readable on a PC, better picture), on a regular DVD (lesser pictures, but readable in any DVD player), or through the web (crappy picture and/or huge bandwidth needed).One way or the other, we should host it on the main BMW Club of Quebec website.
Emre
sebdavid
10-15-2007, 08:17 PM
I didn't have time to add in music before the show. Should I add music for the video to be hosted on the website? I'm inclined not to use music on the video/DVD to be distributed to members, as I'm assuming you'd prefer to hear the trackside audio, but for new visitors?
Also, what kind of quality should we aim for if we host it on the website? I have 3 videos:
1-Footage exclusively from AutumnLeaves presented in a kind of "a day in the life" fashion, detailing the different activities/events during a typical Tremblant HPDE.
2-Footage from the two days of Springfling including mostly track action and some footage from the pits (cars)
3-Footage from 3 events: TrackOut, MidSummerHeat, and the lapping day some of us poorer guys had at MecaGlisse while most members were at AutumnLeaves. Again this is mostly track action, with some pits footage.
I think the one to showcase would be the AutumnLeaves one. It is the most informative and shows what our events look like. It lasts about 20 minutes, including an in-car video of a lap and a half in Blacksheep's Civic. I also think I should submit it to collective scrutiny in order to refine it and extract the gist of it in order to shorten it, but I don't really know what parts should be cut short and what others should be lengthened.
bmwqc
10-15-2007, 08:20 PM
Here's a teaser ;)
SCP8 pics continued:
bmwqc
10-15-2007, 08:26 PM
SCP8 pics continued:
A few more pics from SCP8
bmwqc
10-15-2007, 08:31 PM
A few more pics from SCP8
More pics from SCP8
bmwqc
10-15-2007, 08:36 PM
More pics from SCP8
And more pics
bmwqc
10-15-2007, 08:38 PM
And more pics
A a few more pics - last batch
johnmdanskin
10-15-2007, 08:46 PM
looks like he put the qualifying armor-all on his tires for traction. I can't look at those wire rims without thinking about trying to get brake dust off of them.
sebdavid
10-15-2007, 09:11 PM
Henry, I see you conveniently left my ratty car out of range of your lens... :D
bmwqc
10-15-2007, 09:37 PM
looks like he put the qualifying armor-all on his tires for traction. I can't look at those wire rims without thinking about trying to get brake dust off of them.
I wish I has taken a pics of that wheel from a distance to show its size relative to the car body. They were humongous. Those rims alone are probably worth more than the car they are mounted on.
bmwqc
10-15-2007, 09:40 PM
Henry, I see you conveniently left my ratty car out of range of your lens... :D
Seb,
Not at all. I had intended to take pics of all the cars, but the lighting over our display corner was not very good. On top of that, your car happened to be under a very dim spot. Being black, my test shot did not show well so I deleted it.
sebdavid
10-15-2007, 10:01 PM
Hehe that's alright Henry, I don't care at all, it was just a joke. My car (and its scratches) isn't all that special anyway. In the traffic jam getting out of the stadium, people were taking pictures of all the cars, they weren't even looking twice at mine. I like that. I like to slip under the (police) radar in my sleeper q-ship...
Andrei
10-16-2007, 09:18 AM
I didn't have time to add in music before the show. Should I add music for the video to be hosted on the website? I'm inclined not to use music on the video/DVD to be distributed to members, as I'm assuming you'd prefer to hear the trackside audio, but for new visitors?
Also, what kind of quality should we aim for if we host it on the website? I have 3 videos:
1-Footage exclusively from AutumnLeaves presented in a kind of "a day in the life" fashion, detailing the different activities/events during a typical Tremblant HPDE.
2-Footage from the two days of Springfling including mostly track action and some footage from the pits (cars)
3-Footage from 3 events: TrackOut, MidSummerHeat, and the lapping day some of us poorer guys had at MecaGlisse while most members were at AutumnLeaves. Again this is mostly track action, with some pits footage.
I think the one to showcase would be the AutumnLeaves one. It is the most informative and shows what our events look like. It lasts about 20 minutes, including an in-car video of a lap and a half in Blacksheep's Civic. I also think I should submit it to collective scrutiny in order to refine it and extract the gist of it in order to shorten it, but I don't really know what parts should be cut short and what others should be lengthened.
Don't worry about hosting. Make your master video as good as you can and I can compress it to whatever is suitable.
We can host a bittorrent tracker on our site. We have plenty of bandwidth allowance to host one nice video. Total tranfer we can do is 1 terabyte per month. For a 100 mbyte video that is 10,000 downloads and with bittorrent it would be much more than that. I have spare bandwidth on some other servers too.
In short. Make a good video. If people like it we can worry about hosting later.
BTW I have a DVD in-car video of me driving Calabogie. If you feel you can use it I can give it to you.
denious
10-16-2007, 07:55 PM
I personally wasn't there, but heard that there was a silver 2-tone e30 m3 with bmwquebec sticker on it, been trying to find pics of it as I want to paint my 318is silver. Anyone knows which car I'm talking about...?
sebdavid
10-16-2007, 08:05 PM
Well yeah, I'd like that, even just to watch it I'd be interested. Depending what format you have it in, it might be better to wait until a club meeting. I'll be abroad for the next one though.
bmwqc
10-16-2007, 08:47 PM
I personally wasn't there, but heard that there was a silver 2-tone e30 m3 with bmwquebec sticker on it, been trying to find pics of it as I want to paint my 318is silver. Anyone knows which car I'm talking about...?
There was an E30 M3 in the display, but it was black, not silver.
sebdavid
10-22-2007, 09:03 AM
Andrei, I've sent you a pm. I've made a small-size version of the video that was presented at SCP, but I need somewhere to put it in order for members to view it, critique it, and suggest changes in order to make a good final version.
I'd put it on YouTube but it's too long. Worse comes to worse I'll split it in two, but I'd rather have it in one place.
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