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Lee

08-11-2005, 11:58 AM

Hmm, what happened to the old "don't work on the car right before an event" ? :) :)

antoine

I am still obeing to this rule. The tranny has been installed for a week. I am leaving in a few minutes and PMI has not yet delivered by airbox, even though it was promised for a few days ago. Looks that they are not very reliable. It will now be difficult to recommend them after they showed how "serious" they were.

Nano

08-11-2005, 06:33 PM

houston, we are ready for take-off :D

everything is OK, only thing left is cleaning the car spotless for for saturdat sunday.

anticipation is building like crazy :D

Unfortunately I won't be there friday :(

been also checking weather for 2 weeks!
http://www.meteomedia.com/Meteo/Villes/can/Pages/CAQC0360.htm

it's been changing EVERY day... cross-fingers

bmwqc

08-11-2005, 10:08 PM

Yes, make sure you have good rain tires on.

Andre

08-12-2005, 10:36 PM

FYI, I was up today, saw Emre and Andrei and a ton of very nice cars. s38 into an e30 anyone? Way more people there than during the Trilium chapter school (had trouble finding parking). I had a chance to look at a bunch of k prepared e30's. I don't think I've ever seen so many e30 m3's in one spot. Some of them were absolutely immaculate; I'll post pics later.

If you have a few hours to spare this weekend, GO to Tremblant; it's worth the drive.

~andre~

Emre

08-14-2005, 10:01 PM

Way more people there than during the Trilium chapter school (had trouble finding parking).From what I understand, this was the single biggest BMW driving event in the Club's history. Even the Boston Chapter (the oldest in North America) has never had a bigger event. There were around 250 drivers in total (including students, instructors, and racers). The paddoicks were so full that some people were forced to set up outside the gates!

been also checking weather for 2 weeks!
it's been changing EVERY day... cross-fingersWe got lucky with the weather.

Emre

Lee

08-14-2005, 10:12 PM

It is 10PM. I am just back home from Tremblant. I packed all my stuff at the track and stayed a few hours to treat myself to some roasted duck in a very nice restaurant in Tremblant Village. What a weekend.

The weather was perfect. Hot but not too hot. Sooooo many cars. I had two very nice students: Stephanie and Geneviève. Both made some very good progress and gained great confidence. So, mission accomplished.

I also gave a ride in my 2002 to the Club Racing tech stewart. He told me that it was the best ride he had in the past ten years. So, I am kinda proud. We were literally flying over every corner.

blacksheep

08-15-2005, 10:31 AM

Perfect weather, great event, fantastic weekend

One of the things I enjoy the most at driving schools is meeting and hanging out with such great people. And BMW club events have the best crowd in my opinion.

Nano

08-15-2005, 11:37 AM

Organization was impressive, insignificant delays great flow. the amount of people and cars was staggering. Thumb-up to the organizers. I don't know how many more people the event could hold!

Weather was fantastic. saturday it felt like it was going to rain, and then the sun came through and the day was fantastic. Sunday overcast sky was perfect again!(previous day sun-burn :o).

The track is F-A-B-U-L-O-U-S, it's a pure charm. So exciting from the first to last corner.

School was great. The thing I hated the most was traffic. When traffic showed up I started driving like shit because my only concern became to "get rid" of traffic. Hard to concentrate on driving when you have 5 cars in front and 3 cars behind and point-bys are scarce. Second day was much better. I am still quite happy, I think I had a good hold of the track and improved tremendously, when I got clean laps it was an absolute blast.

Thanks again for the ride EMRE, it was pretty intense. I can't image how that EVO moves when on full boost!

Emre

08-15-2005, 12:56 PM

One of the things I enjoy the most at driving schools is meeting and hanging out with such great people. And BMW club events have the best crowd in my opinion.I've always felt the same. I really like the crowd at BMW CC and CCA events.

The thing I hated the most was traffic. When traffic showed up I started driving like shit because my only concern became to "get rid" of traffic.It's funny you say that. Dealing with traffic is one of the things I really enjoy about being on the track. I get bored when I have an open track in front of me and no one to dice with.

Hard to concentrate on driving when you have 5 cars in front and 3 cars behind and point-bys are scarce. Second day was much better. I am still quite happy, I think I had a good hold of the track and improved tremendously, when I got clean laps it was an absolute blast.Yeah, it's different in the more advanced groups. In the beginner and intermediate groups you have a wider range of skill levels, thus bigger speed differentials. Plus, you get some drivers who are not too careful about watching their mirrors and giving point-bys. My impression was that things improved dramatically on Sunday.

Thanks again for the ride EMRE, it was pretty intense. I can't image how that EVO moves when on full boost!It was my pleasure. The Evo is such a great handling car that even with worn-out street rubber, crappy pads, and low boost you can still have a LOT of fun.

Emre

Nano

08-15-2005, 04:10 PM

It's funny you say that. Dealing with traffic is one of the things I really enjoy about being on the track. I get bored when I have an open track in front of me and no one to dice with.

To be true, I didn't really hate some of the traffic :D. Honestly I thought it was great fun a couple times(and great practice too) trying to catch up a car or trying to lose a car... It was great to try to be as smooth and fast as possible and it was great seeing how a good corner could catapult you ahead of normally faster cars... but a couple of times It happened I got in a couple of corners too fast and went wide a couple of times (I think that was a good experience as well, as it made apparent the behavior of the car in some "limit" cases). But my instructor didn't like it one bit(I think he was scared I was racing other cars, which I NEVER did).

When alone I could really concentrate on the car and the smoothness. And I have to admit I was driving much smoother with a free track, so I guess I still should work on that before "dicing" with others :)

SpeedTT

08-15-2005, 05:02 PM

J'ai vraiment beaucoup apprécié mon expérience à Tremblant. Cela ne m'empêche pas d'être d'accord avec NANO. Effectivement il est intéressant d'avoir des véhicules à dépasser et de se faire dépasser fait partie de la game. Toutefois des groupes de 38 véhicules et plus en même temps sur la piste c'est beaucoup. J'ai roulé sur ce même circuit il y a de cela a peine un mois avec des groupes de 25 à 30 véhicules, il y avait des véhicules a dépassersans être aussi congestionné qu'à certains moments. Dailleurs de concert avec mon instructeur nous somme rentré à 2 reprises dans la ligne des puits afin de laisser passer de longs cortèges de véhicules. Cela ne m'empeche pas d'être aussi d'accord avec Emree, car ces "blocages" nous obligent a rester concentré et a tenter de maintenir notre "momentum". La solution ( s'il en exite qu'une seule...) des groupes avec suffisamments de véhicules pour nous obliger à rester concentrer sur nos lignes et notre cadence, mais pas des groupes aussi important. Je laise la sagesse et l'expérience des membres sénior nous indiquer la voie vers le nombre idéal ( nom suffisamment élevé pour payer la piste et tous les extras)
En passant question de connaitre l'opinion des membres comment réagiriez-vous si plutôt qu de payer $45 pour le souper BBQ, ce même montant serait déduit du montant que nous avons dû payer, et que chacun s'arrangerait par lui-même pour le souper... il y a plein de bons petitsa resto à Tremblant ???

blacksheep

08-15-2005, 07:15 PM

En passant question de connaitre l'opinion des membres comment réagiriez-vous si plutôt qu de payer $45 pour le souper BBQ, ce même montant serait déduit du montant que nous avons dû payer, et que chacun s'arrangerait par lui-même pour le souper... il y a plein de bons petitsa resto à Tremblant ???Au contraire, je trouve que l'idée de souper tous ensemble est excellente, c'est une occasion de rencontrer de nouveaux visages et de jaser de la journée avec du monde qui ne font pas nécessairement partie de notre cercle normal d'amis.

Y'a bcp de gens intéressants que j'ai rencontré là-bas, et ce sont des gens que je ne penserais pas d'inviter au restaurant

Par contre, est-ce que le souper valait 45$ ... ça c'est discutable http://www.bmwquebec.ca/forum/images/icons/icon4.gif

silver ride

08-16-2005, 12:03 PM

J'ai adoré ma fin de semaine!! C'était tout simplement génial :D Vivement l'année prochaine

J'ai beaucoup appris avec Lee (merci beaucoup encore :) ) et depuis que j'ai quitté le site dimanche, je tourne encore dans ma tête! J'en aurais pris encore plus si j'avais pu, je ne voulais pas partir...

Il y avait beaucoup de monde, mais les gens étaient sympathiques et la plupart des gens étaient là pour les bonnes raisons. Vraiment enrichissant comme week-end.

C'était mon 2e événement et l'organisation était excellente.

Pour le souper, je trouve moi aussi que le fait de souper tous ensembles est une bonne idée. Ça permet de rencontrer du nouveau monde et d'avoir le "feedback" et les impressions de plusieurs sur la piste et sur la journée!

Tout ça pour dire, Big thumbs up aux organisateurs!!

Keep up the good work! :D

Kolia

08-16-2005, 12:13 PM

What a blast I had!

The track is fabulous, very predictable traction wise (it was dry all week-end) with an exceptional balance of slow, semi-fast and flat out corners (mmmh… 4th gear in turn six…). The 1-2-3 combo was soooo much fun when I could get a clean run. Pfew, the Z was flying !

The company was excellent. Traffic was sometime dense, but in my opinions, point bys where given quickly and safely. I was passing a lot in both group 3 and 2 and 8 cars queues where usually dealt with within 2 laps. I’ve been stuck behind single cars for way longer at other events. Sorry for those of you I might have cut a bit short sometimes. Setting up for turn 10 while overtaking at ~110 mph kinda made me snap back in my lane quickly.

My best lap was on the last session on Sunday, immediately followed by a 4 wheels off-track excursion at the chicane exit… Going solo and with 1/4 tank of fuel made for a rather light and loose car! Man she was fast !

Both thumbs up to the organizers, instructors and all participants.

I’ll be there next year for sure !

Alexandre

Lee

08-16-2005, 12:39 PM

Conduire alors qu'il y a beaucoup de traffic est moins facile car on ne peut pas avoir de rythme. Ainsi, avec mon étudiante du groupe 2 (Geneviève), nous avons laissé passer moins de monde afin de garder le rythme. Cela nous a permis de rouler plus vite, et soudainement mon élève a commencé à mieux conduire. Elle pouvait rentrer dans son rythme et mieux se concentrer.

Les groupes novice et intermédiaires étaient moins homogènes que le groupe avancé. Cependant, rassurez-vous car il y avait aussi des yahoos dans le groupe des instructeurs. J'ai eu SilverRide (Stéphanie) comme élève dans le groupe 3 (novice) et nous avons eu beaucoup de fun. Celle-ci avait une tête sur les épaules et ce fut un vrai charme. Le Circuit Mont-Tremblant est très technique et demande du jugement. On commence lentement et on monte le rythme quand on est en confiance dans tous les tournants. Ça ne sert à rien de foncer dès le début car prendre des tournants en mode de panique ne permet pas de bien apprende.

Emre

08-16-2005, 02:18 PM

Setting up for turn 10 while overtaking at ~110 mph kinda made me snap back in my lane quickly.You can enter corner 10 all the way to the inside. It's just a matter of adjusting your entry speed and using smooth inputs. As a rule, it's a very bad idea to jump back on line after taking a late pass. Just enter the corner off line and adjust your driving accordingly.

Driving off line is something that every advanced student should be very comfortable with. Generally, we would never even consider signing off a student to run solo until they can prove that they're totally comfortable and capable of driving off line safely. Your instructor should probably have run through some exercises before signing you off.

Emre

Kolia

08-16-2005, 02:48 PM

You can enter corner 10 all the way to the inside. It's just a matter of adjusting your entry speed and using smooth inputs. As a rule, it's a very bad idea to jump back on line after taking a late pass. Just enter the corner off line and adjust your driving accordingly.

Driving off line is something that every advanced student should be very comfortable with. Generally, we would never even consider signing off a student to run solo until they can prove that they're totally comfortable and capable of driving off line safely. Your instructor should probably have run through some exercises before signing you off.

Emre

That had been discussed with my instructor and corrected before he signed me off. A simple question of adjusting my own comfort zone to the Club's standard for a given group. I'm used to running in close proximity...

When I wasn't confortable with a late passing, I just stayed behind for that turn and waited for the next signal to go. There was no rush.

Lee pointed out an interresting aspect. When my approach speed were high with a car in front, I usually held back untill we reached one of the long straights to present myself for passing. We sometime need only one or two good pass to grove a line through a curve and always having to blow our rythm for faster car/driver is just frustrating.

Lee

08-16-2005, 02:51 PM

Driving off line is something that every advanced student should be very comfortable with. Generally, we would never even consider signing off a student to run solo until they can prove that they're totally comfortable and capable of driving off line safely. Your instructor should probably have run through some exercises before signing you off.

Emre

I too think that no driver should be signed off until he can prove he can drive any corner off-line. BTW, it is not difficult, just go slower and hug to the inside line. It is not in the instructors' curriculum to teach how to drive off-line, which is why it is a reflex from most student to get back on the line after a late pass. I have seen several signed-off drivers making very late passes and cut you (me) off right before the corner. Not safe. It really surprised my grp 2 student who almost hit the guy. As I said earlier. Judgement is always affected by emotions, and because driving is only a technique, every driver should lear to drive in a relax way with no emotion. If you feel excited behind the wheel at any given occasion, you will become a danger to you and the others.

blacksheep

08-16-2005, 04:38 PM

I have seen several signed-off drivers making very late passes and cut you (me) off right before the corner. Not safe. It really surprised my grp 2 student who almost hit the guy.That's very true. Was it me who cut off Genevieve? I don't remember but if I did it you should have come and told me.

I was signed off in a previous HPDE event even though I had this bad habit (cutting back to the standard line too quickly after a pass) without realizing it. My instructor noticed this, pointed it out to me and taught me the proper way to go in off-line.

I'm pretty familiar with Tremblant but still, I really learned a lot last weekend

bmwqc

08-16-2005, 05:34 PM

It is not in the instructors' curriculum to teach how to drive off-line, which is why it is a reflex from most student to get back on the line after a late pass. I have seen several signed-off drivers making very late passes and cut you (me) off right before the corner. Not safe. It really surprised my grp 2 student who almost hit the guy.

Safe passing is a two-way affair. The driver being passed should also facilitate the passing by easing off the gas pedal after giving the point-by and only mash the gas pedal after the passing car has completed the pass safely

Lee

08-16-2005, 06:40 PM

That's very true. Was it me who cut off Genevieve? I don't remember but if I did it you should have come and told me.

I was signed off in a previous HPDE event even though I had this bad habit (cutting back to the standard line too quickly after a pass) without realizing it. My instructor noticed this, pointed it out to me and taught me the proper way to go in off-line.

I'm pretty familiar with Tremblant but still, I really learned a lot last weekend

No Eric, not you. In fact it was a silver e46 M3 from Nova Scotia. I spoke to the guy and made him understand that every pass should be analyzed and judged if safe or not. He passed us at the last minute in the inside of corner 8 and then went wide at the entry of the corner, exactly where my student was aiming. We avoided the car by only a few feet.

But it was never as bad as when when gave a point by to a 350Z on the front straight, the car took the pass but he was also passed at the same time by a Porsche. The P car should have waited for the 350Z to complete the pass, wait that we pointed him by and then judge if it was safe to do the pass. We ended up being 3 abreast at the entry of corner 0ne. The 350Z was 12 inches away from our bodywork. The Porsche got very squeerly in corneer one and that could have created a group accident.

My student was not so pleased by the Porsche's pass. I would not have minded if I was the driver as I have already been two abreast thru out the whole corner up to the esses while racing. I have also been three abreast in corner 8 up to corner 10, which I took first as I was on the outside.

As I said, many drivers were perhaps a bit too excited, and that may have clouded their judgement.

blacksheep

08-16-2005, 07:24 PM

In fact it was a silver e46 M3 from Nova Scotia.Oh him. I thought maybe he was trying some different lines or something.

I was followed him for about 3 laps hoping for a point-by but didn't get one and he was doing some extremely strange stuff in front of me. Like very hard and early braking for #4 which made things interesting for me :)

Was he signed off? I couldn't see into the car but I figured the instructor would say something. Finally I thought it was getting too dangerous so I just slowed and let him go.

He saw me in the paddock and he apologized ... I really don't know why. It's not his fault, what was his instructor doing?

Nano

08-16-2005, 07:33 PM

No Eric, not you. In fact it was a silver e46 M3 from Nova Scotia. I spoke to the guy and made him understand that every pass should be analyzed and judged if safe or not. He passed us at the last minute in the inside of corner 8 and then went wide at the entry of the corner, exactly where my student was aiming. We avoided the car by only a few feet.

But it was never as bad as when when gave a point by to a 350Z on the front straight, the car took the pass but he was also passed at the same time by a Porsche. The P car should have waited for the 350Z to complete the pass, wait that we pointed him by and then judge if it was safe to do the pass. We ended up being 3 abreast at the entry of corner 0ne. The 350Z was 12 inches away from our bodywork. The Porsche got very squeerly in corneer one and that could have created a group accident.

My student was not so pleased by the Porsche's pass. I would not have minded if I was the driver as I have already been two abreast thru out the whole corner up to the esses while racing. I have also been three abreast in corner 8 up to corner 10, which I took first as I was on the outside.

As I said, many drivers were perhaps a bit too excited, and that may have clouded their judgement.

I think that was me in the 350z(was it silver?). I did not give him point by to pass and didn't know if he was going to try pass me anyway, I didn't know if I should lift off the gas if he tried, if I should move to the left or where to go.. not nice having to go through 1-2-3 at 160kmh while looking in rear mirror. I gave him point-by between corner 5-6

I hated that porsche guy and always hoped to be as far as him as possible on the track. First day he was slow as hell and wasn't giving point bys. I think he even got a warning.

second day he got better and started driving VERY aggressively. He was tailgating people even when clearly there was no passing zone or there were several cars waiting to pass a slower car.

Kolia

08-16-2005, 07:45 PM

But it was never as bad as when when gave a point by to a 350Z on the front straight, the car took the pass but he was also passed at the same time by a Porsche. The P car should have waited for the 350Z to complete the pass, wait that we pointed him by and then judge if it was safe to do the pass. We ended up being 3 abreast at the entry of corner 0ne. The 350Z was 12 inches away from our bodywork. The Porsche got very squeerly in corneer one and that could have created a group accident.

I actually have that one on tape...

Not very good to help te Porsche driver image...

silver ride

08-16-2005, 08:46 PM

I think that was me in the 350z. (was it silver?) I did not give him point by to pass and didn't know if he was going to try pass me anyway, I didn't know if I should lift off the gas if he tried, if I should move to the left or where to go.. not nice having to go through 1-2-3 at 160kmh while looking in rear mirror. I gave him point by between corner 5-6

I hated that porsche guy and always hoped to be as far as him as possible on the track. First day he was slow as hell and wasn't giving point bys. I think he even got a warning.

second day he got better and started driving VERY aggressively. He was tailgating people even when clearly there was no passing zone or there where several cars waiting to pass a slower car.

Yes Nano, it was you. There was no problem for you passing me, I gave you the point by and I was expecting you to pass. There is nothing wrong with that part. ;)

The thing is I never saw the Porsche behind you before. I had no idea that he was there. When I saw him, I understood why we were so close when you passed me.

I heard a couple stories concerning that guy this week-end... I think that he was beeing watched by a couple of us!

Nano

08-16-2005, 09:06 PM

Yes Nano, it was you. There was no problem for you passing me, I gave you the point by and I was expecting you to pass. There is nothing wrong with that part. ;)

The thing is I never saw the Porsche behind you before. I had no idea that he was there. When I saw him, I understood why we were so close when you passed me.

I heard a couple stories concerning that guy this week-end... I think that he was beeing watched by a couple of us!

hehe, glad to hear that! The reason I started closing you was because when I started to pass you, the guy started tailgating me like crazy left and right! He even started pulling on my right

all is well that ends well. I guess we learned something from that too. :)

snowmanmtl

08-16-2005, 09:13 PM

Or the silver one?

Kolia

08-16-2005, 09:31 PM

Or the silver one?

The Silver Carrera C4S

snowmanmtl

08-16-2005, 09:36 PM

I never saw him on Friday. Where was he from?
Edit: You mean the silver GT3, not a c4s. Right? Now I know which car you are talking about. I never saw him on the track though.

Lee

08-16-2005, 09:47 PM

I think that was me in the 350z(was it silver?). I did not give him point by to pass and didn't know if he was going to try pass me anyway.

Hey Nano. You did nothing wrong and I believe you were as surprised as we were. I understand that you had to move over to us to allow room for the P car to pass you. Especially that I was saying my students not to change their line to allow others to pass... unless in an unsafe situation. And because I teached to take corner one in the center of the track, that doesn't leave room for two other cars on the right...

But anyway. That still was a fun weekend,and I witnessed that even in the advanced and instructor groups, some drivers had no clue how to drive that track. That shows how technical and difficult it is.

Nano

08-16-2005, 09:55 PM

I never saw him on Friday. Where was he from?
Edit: You mean the siver GT3, not a c4s. Right? Now I know which carr you are talking about. I never saw him on the track though.

It was a silver 996 carrera 4S

No problem getting the number. With the amount of photographers this weekend it will pop-up soon.

But anyway. That still was a fun weekend,and I witnessed that even in the advanced and instructor groups, some drivers had no clue how to drive that track. That shows how technical and difficult it is.

Hehe, even the racers ,the pace car and the tow truck had some major fuck-ups, lol.

40 cars on the track is pretty much the maximum, both for safety, fun and learning. With 50 cars on the track I am not sure I would want to participate.

It was a blast nonetheless. My best weekend of entire summer.

snowmanmtl

08-16-2005, 09:59 PM

I was only there on Fri. and there were only two groups so, I'm kinda curious.

Andrei

08-16-2005, 10:47 PM

Silver GT3 is Bob Rouleau and he definitely would not have done a stunt like that in group 3. He was only there on Friday, anyway.

Friday was for racers, instructors, and invited advanced students only.

blacksheep

08-16-2005, 10:52 PM

are you guys SURE it wasn't some crazy Russian in a Phoenix Yellow E46 M3? :D

Lee

08-16-2005, 11:02 PM

Phoenix yellow? You mean bird poop yellow?

Nop, the Porsche that did a late pass, three abreast on corner 1 was from Montreal and was Emre's student. I spoke to the driver and gave him polite shit. I believe Emre was a tad firmer. We are even thinking about reavaluating his participation next time.

snowmanmtl

08-16-2005, 11:28 PM

Gee whiz, I could have had so much fun if it was.
"are you guys SURE it wasn't some crazy Russian in a Phoenix Yellow E46 M3?"
That's Yellow?

Kolia

08-17-2005, 10:29 AM

I'm kinda happy I was promoted to group 2 on sunday tought. If that guy was becoming aggressive, I can only imagine what he would have done when I'd come up fast behind him !

Anyways, the whole week-end was not about that single car not letting people pass. It was great fun and I felt safe going around the track.

Emre

08-18-2005, 11:23 AM

I hated that porsche guy and always hoped to be as far as him as possible on the track. First day he was slow as hell and wasn't giving point bys. I think he even got a warning.

second day he got better and started driving VERY aggressively. He was tailgating people even when clearly there was no passing zone or there were several cars waiting to pass a slower car.
The Silver Carrera C4SThere were two Porsches in Group 3 that were problemmatic. One was a Silver 996 C4S and the other was a navy blue 964 C4. If it was the silver 996 that pulled that stunt, then it wasn't my student. My guy had the blue 964 and was a REAL handful...totally unpredictable.

Emre

Kolia

08-18-2005, 11:43 AM

The semi-kamikaze pass I have on tape involves the Silver one.

Instructing a non responsive student in a high HP car must be sooo nerve racking ! Thumbs up to you guys !

blacksheep

08-18-2005, 12:14 PM

Instructing a non responsive student in a high HP car must be sooo nerve racking ! Thumbs up to you guys !Yeah no kidding!

Especially in turn 2, when you start to hit pretty good speeds and you feel the car dancing around as the tires struggle for grip ... I was always thinking how I'd feel if I was in the passenger's seat with a driver I don't know and who could freak out and crash the car. Eeeek.

Hats off

silver ride

08-18-2005, 12:36 PM

Lee

08-18-2005, 12:51 PM

I have to go in the same way as Kolia and blacksheep... and probably a lot of other students ;)

a huge thumb up to the instructors who must sometimes wish they would be somewhere else, especially when something goes wrong and they can't control anything...

Keep up the good work!!

Most students are predictable. The idea is to stay within the student's comfort zone, and then stretch it slowly. When a student is comfortable in most corners, it is time to go a tad faster. If he isn't, then back out a bit. But you are right Stéphanie, we put our faith and life in your hands...

Lee

Manny

08-18-2005, 04:49 PM

It was an excellent event. It was my first time at Tremblant .
The thing that was so amazing was the friendliness of all the people.
My Instructors where so good and helpfull.
I was the one driving the slow silver Celica GT-S 2000.
Those M3's are something else!!

Manny.

Kolia

08-21-2005, 07:17 PM

Here goes my bandwidth for this month ! ;)

I didn't take any onboard videos so here's a couple of fly -by of group 2 on Sunday. It gives a pretty good idea of the amount of traffic there was !

Do a Save_As:
http://www.alexandre-malouin.com/Download/LCMT/BAB_VII.avi

You will need the DivX 6.0 codec to view the video. Find it on ww.divx.com

Lee

08-21-2005, 10:12 PM

Here goes my bandwidth for this month ! ;)

I ddn't take any onboard videos so here's a couple of fly -y of group 2 on Sunday. It gives a pretty good idea of the amount of traffic there was !

Do a Save_As:
http://www.alexandre-malouin.com/Download/LCMT/BAB_VII.avi

You will need the DivX 6.0 codec to view the video. Find it on ww.divx.com

Wow. Now I realize there were a lot of cars on the track. And that was only one group.